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    @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    There is also a premium article on Rugbypass, pointing out similar errors. In addition, the lack of growth in attacking plays, with the same plays that were used Vs Fiji& Oz, also used Vs boks. Not only that, they've been around since the Hansen era

    The try mentioned is the Savea one, which was just saying beaudy brilliance, and not a set play

    The try highlighted the possibilities for the All Blacks had they schemed deliberately for what they were facing, instead of rolling out Foster’s same old menu and trying to take on the Springboks in areas of strength like the maul.

    Based on their two games against the Springboks, Rennie and his staff looked far superior to the All Blacks brains trust when it came to game planning for the world champions.

    They tailored their game to the opposition to attack the weaknesses, whereas the All Blacks naively went brazenly forward trying to attack South Africa’s strengths and it backfired.

    This should be a key lesson for Foster’s All Blacks moving forward. In the organised parts of the game, they cannot change the pieces performing the roles, run the same plays against everyone and expect them to work.

    There needs to be some flexibility there and more thought into the process.

    The fact that they were running the same starter play with McKenzie on the left wing showed a certain level of naivety that, to no surprise, blew up.

    In tight test matches where counter-attacking opportunities dry up, the All Blacks will need to have a clinical set-piece attacking plan which, at times, needs to be adjusted for the opposition.

    They might have the most attacking talent in the world, but they still need decent plans to be devised to help them get the match-ups and space they need to let their skills shine.

    You cannot roll up and play the same against Fiji as you do against the Springboks and expect to win handsomely.

    It could work, or it could just as easily blow up like it did twice in the Rugby Championship..

    Sorry to go back to this ...
    Fair enough the Boks were up in our faces, brutal, energetic rugged commonsense rugby with some nicely worked out tries, pinpointed our weakest players, Vermeulen was again very good but very good at key moments (so, great player), their locks are bigger and tougher than before and quite frankly Taylor went into his shell after his miscatch, DMac and Havili and Richie were pounced on, they just don't have the mass, Patty T is a turnover waiting to happen, and Scotty B made yet more little stupid yellow coloured mistakes in front of the ref. I don't think he is a journeyman, just a solid international quality hardworking lock with brain fades at key moments.
    But we lack a hardworking hardnosed lock when Sammy W. is not there (and he is more an all-round hardworking good lock with great rugby brain rather than a hard bugger) and BBBR was still working back to his physically dominant self (but not in this match).

    Loosies: I thought Akira was generally ok, Savea was good, it was at 8 that a forward went missing. When Blackadder came on he was up in their faces and battled. So I am still surprised, what the hell happened to LJ, where was he? I saw him standing behind rucks and a bit after halftime but nothing dominant, nothing much to see.
    I wonder if we still have a key problem at 8 as well.

    I don't blame the coaches too much (apart, as the article rightly says, not targetting opposition weaknesses). but they should have realized DH would be targetted at 12, there is little point in DMac against the ABs if there are 2 10s (and you want JB on as long as possible, he was great again), but at midfield, we lacked dominance we lacked impact, and we lacked imagination. And Samisoni is clearer better for this sort of game than Asafo.

    Shout out to wings, I thought they played well. But we really have depth problems at lock and selection issues in the midfield. We were lucky the Boks persist with Pollard and Le Roux and can't get Steyn to full game fitness. He looks like a truckstop diner not a deft placement kicker but boy can he get them key territory.

    I thought the ref missed neck rolls/high tackles, offsides at rucks, general offsides and so forth but hey it was what it was. We had an off night and they had an on night.
    I thought we were outcoached as well, their bench timing was great again.

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    @kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    One thing TSF is terribly good at is straw man arguments.

    It's entirely fine and proper to point out a player isn't up to Test rugby at that stage of their development. That doesn't rule out maturity and improvement. It certainly doesn't rule out criticism.

    Again that's not the argument. It's when a player is ripped to shreds as being shit, not up to it etc. And again let's stop pretending nuance is a thing here.

    Nuance is a thing everywhere. If only you can recognise/understand it.
    And it's "balderdash".
    Boulder Dash was a sweet little computer game.

    Stick to reviewing shitty Movies. It's a much better use of your time.

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    @machpants said in Wallabies v Springboks II:

    @nta said in Wallabies v Springboks II:

    @smuts said in Wallabies v Springboks II:

    Congrats Aussies. First time in forever that I’ve not even watched the highlights. Hope it feels great.

    Cheers. Not a great couple of games by your okes but hopefully they'll take it out on the ABs 😉

    I don't know much about your coach, but a quick wiki search shows he's Rassie's man, and TBH it smacks a little of nepotism. Hopefully there is a bit of a shakeup and the Boks find their groove. And some fitness training!

    One thing on which I agree with Keo: trying to play like someone else is just going to hurt the Boks. Use their strengths by all means, but they've not yet made sure they can execute that to the level required against faster teams.

    That would never happen in the ABs……

    Not a little smack, no...

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    @machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

    @frye said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

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    Malherbe hardly in fine fettle either.

    Can you imagine what he's gonna look like after retiring? 😲

    Foster? 😜

    must have been a cold day..

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    @smuts said in Springboks v Pumas 2 - 21 August:

    @bones it’s all relative… I’ll show myself out.

    Subliminal...so the ref is related to one or many green jersey wearers? 😉

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    @sidbarret not the first team to look toothless in that position against this bok team. Won’t be the last either.

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    Interesting to see how the aftermath of the Rassie thing has been totally ignored by the local media and official channels.

    Glad to hear that the result of the series is not being over-turned though! But, a bit disappointing that 3 of the allegations of errors were found incorrect by the expert officials panel. He was ruled correct on only a measly 23 of them.

    But, the huge leaked revelation/allegation is that Erasmus sent a copy of the video to Referee Nic Berry before it surfaced in Aussie media. Looks like somebody deliberately hung Erasmus out to dry. I wonder if any action will be taken on that, as apparently sending a review video to a referee is not a novel thing?

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    @machpants said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:

    Best banter from Squidge, 6:16 in - so true

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    The brushing under the carpet has worked its magic on me. I don't remember any Guilford only a Guildford..

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    @sidbarret our refs are very strict on this on CC. My first thought was red.

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    Just watched that last 20 minutes of the Boks A and Bulls, well done to the Bulls for scrapping out a win. Boks A looked rattled.

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    The Georgia Head Coach, Levan Maisashvili, is in hospital in South Africa with Covid on a ventilator after suffering severe lung damage.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/57874642

    Wishing him all the best for a full recovery.

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    @Bones YOU are the annoying one, how dare you summon me into the sports chat, you know I'm not to be trusted in here....

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    @sidbarret said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    @stodders the two things that stick out are the stoppages and that incident where the s&c coach got told off in NZ2.

    Townsend had a bit of wingh this week about his players being sledged from the sidelines by the SA support staff (though I think he missed the actual sledge - the comments were in Afrikaans and half his team understood what was said - call it a meta sledge).

    It's all very class stuff.

    If you win it's fine (see Aussie cricket circa 2003) but if lose or are just average you soon become Aussie cricket in 2018.

    See Haddin ODI CWC Final 2015... to quote: we won didn't we?

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    @Catogrande said in [Poll] Who would you prefer to win?:

    @Tim said in [Poll] Who would you prefer to win?:

    @booboo No, @Catogrande is having consolation sex with Katie Hopkins.

    Which would explain my lack of posting yesterday, It took me ages to escape from her cellar.

    She must watch too many movies

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    That is rather amusing.

    I wonder what the Lions did to him?

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    @Crucial said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    @MiketheSnow one of his better ones.
    When this guy stops trying to be a comedian his analysis is very good

    Yep.

    Remarkable when you consider the drivel which comes out of SCW's mouth most of the time, and he's a WC winner ffs

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    @Bovidae said in RWC: Japan v South Africa (QF 4):

    The good sauce is that both Foster and Robertson want Brown as their attack coach.

    Party at Tony Brown's?

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    @Salacious-Crumb fair enough. Yet another reason why I resent our press.