All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch
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One thing I want to see is that they keep ball in hand during the last play of the match, and carefully drive for a try. Its useful practice. Remember the come from behind win against Ireland.
Both the last 2 weeks, they played a bit in the last minute, then kicked the ball away. A bit frustrating. One of you, give Hansen a call, could you?
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Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else, Ardie needs a little more bulk although he has other intangibles. Bones that grubber kick from Ardie was pretty sweet I think considering the space he was in. If Fekitoa caught it it was on. Crotty was average and if he was Toeava the fern would have been crowing about him having tits for hands. That forward pass was awful but the Cantabs have been good at perfecting it and getting away with it. He is injured often. Because Barrett has been so dynamic he really has only to be a role player. The midfield is still not settled. I am not a Fekitoa fan but he tackles well, very well, and with the space he had really did not do much wrong. Winning by large margins does get boring. Was it a home town decision to bring on Todd because Squire was on the bench right? If Kaino is injured will this mean Squire will get a start or since we have won this thing do we start to blood the inevitable in Ioane?
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Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else, Ardie needs a little more bulk although he has other intangibles. Bones that grubber kick from Ardie was pretty sweet I think considering the space he was in. If Fekitoa caught it it was on. Crotty was average and if he was Toeava the fern would have been crowing about him having tits for hands. That forward pass was awful but the Cantabs have been good at perfecting it and getting away with it. He is injured often. Because Barrett has been so dynamic he really has only to be a role player. The midfield is still not settled. I am not a Fekitoa fan but he tackles well, very well, and with the space he had really did not do much wrong. Winning by large margins does get boring. Was it a home town decision to bring on Todd because Squire was on the bench right? If Kaino is injured will this mean Squire will get a start or since we have won this thing do we start to blood the inevitable in Ioane?
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@broughie Squire wasn't in the team. It was Romano and Todd on the bench.
@ACT-Crusader gotcha.
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Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.
@No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.
I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.
The above should not be taken as gospel.
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I just wanted to say that's an appalling call. There was no roll, no grasping of the neck, it was nothing. If the guy has his head below the hips there is going to be high contact. Stop fucking up rugby you ref fluffybunnies!
@mariner4life said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
I just wanted to say that's an appalling call. There was no roll, no grasping of the neck, it was nothing. If the guy has his head below the hips there is going to be high contact. Stop fucking up rugby you ref fluffybunnies!
An Ayoubism. Gardner was letting it go. Crap call.
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@No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.
I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.
The above should not be taken as gospel.
@booboo said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
@No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.
I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.
The above should not be taken as gospel.
19.10 (f)
Basically you can't jump or lift before the ball leaves the hookers hands. It is the equivalent of 'foot up' in a scrum.
While Gardner was correct and obviously wanted to clean the line out contest up for the game, it would have been better to have a word at the next break and warn them of going to penalties (same with the 'early movement call' on Coles). Owens or Joubert would have done that rather than disrupt the flow of the game which took an age to find any rhythm.
Get the game flowing first and your job as ref becomes easier IMO because players are operating more smoothly and making less errors.
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Looks like Hansen and co know what they are talking about -Ardie needs to put on a few more kgs to warrant a starting role.
@akan004 said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Looks like Hansen and co know what they are talking about -Ardie needs to put on a few more kgs to warrant a starting role.
and get fitter.
It might just be the way he carries himself but he often looks like a forward equivalent of Sivivatu on an uninterested day.
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South Africa are absolute world beaters, luckily for New Zealand we have political interference which allows your boys to remain competitive.
There are already very few teams that can keep up with AB's for 60 min, RIP those captivating matches we as spectators used to be treated to.
There is not a tier 1 coach in the world that would accept the criteria imposed by SARU. Until that changes, we will continue to unravel.
(Completely off topic, I cannot seem to login with my old account, anyone care to help me out with a link to how to get it back etc)
@PN said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
South Africa are absolute world beaters, luckily for New Zealand we have political interference which allows your boys to remain competitive.
There are already very few teams that can keep up with AB's for 60 min, RIP those captivating matches we as spectators used to be treated to.
There is not a tier 1 coach in the world that would accept the criteria imposed by SARU. Until that changes, we will continue to unravel.
(Completely off topic, I cannot seem to login with my old account, anyone care to help me out with a link to how to get it back etc)
Check out instructions here
http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/974/how-to-login-with-the-new-software -
Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else, Ardie needs a little more bulk although he has other intangibles. Bones that grubber kick from Ardie was pretty sweet I think considering the space he was in. If Fekitoa caught it it was on. Crotty was average and if he was Toeava the fern would have been crowing about him having tits for hands. That forward pass was awful but the Cantabs have been good at perfecting it and getting away with it. He is injured often. Because Barrett has been so dynamic he really has only to be a role player. The midfield is still not settled. I am not a Fekitoa fan but he tackles well, very well, and with the space he had really did not do much wrong. Winning by large margins does get boring. Was it a home town decision to bring on Todd because Squire was on the bench right? If Kaino is injured will this mean Squire will get a start or since we have won this thing do we start to blood the inevitable in Ioane?
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@booboo said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
@No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.
I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.
The above should not be taken as gospel.
19.10 (f)
Basically you can't jump or lift before the ball leaves the hookers hands. It is the equivalent of 'foot up' in a scrum.
While Gardner was correct and obviously wanted to clean the line out contest up for the game, it would have been better to have a word at the next break and warn them of going to penalties (same with the 'early movement call' on Coles). Owens or Joubert would have done that rather than disrupt the flow of the game which took an age to find any rhythm.
Get the game flowing first and your job as ref becomes easier IMO because players are operating more smoothly and making less errors.
@Crucial can't say I agree. This wasn't an error in timing or execution. It was a deliberate transgression.
And i disagree that the referee's job is to get the game flowing first and then blow shit up he ignored earlier.
Sure don't go looking for an early penalty, but that was a blatent and deliberate breach.
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@broughie said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else,
England getting better everytime they don't play.
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@broughie Yes they won 3 from 3. But they weren't dominant in any of them. They were IMO on a par with Aus but knew how to score a few more points.
The results have given them a slightly inflated rep.
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@booboo but it has created a bit of a talking point, and with us not due to play them again until 2018, Steddie can fire all the shots he likes knowing they dont have to back it up
@taniwharugby exactly my point. We don't play till 2018. I can't see England maintaining their record between now and then (been wrong before ... ) so I don't why we've put them up on such a pedestal now.
What happens if or when England drop to No.6 by the end of next year? Are we still in awe?
Conversely we drop a couple of games and to the unplumbed depths of No.2 (ok we have been No.2 before so not unplumbed ... ).
To misquote Cheika: England are irrelevant to me.
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@mariner4life said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:
I just wanted to say that's an appalling call. There was no roll, no grasping of the neck, it was nothing. If the guy has his head below the hips there is going to be high contact. Stop fucking up rugby you ref fluffybunnies!
An Ayoubism. Gardner was letting it go. Crap call.
