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Stadium of Canterbury

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  • sharkS shark

    Haha yeah triggered a little. I'm PMSL over all the restrictions the CCC is now looking to impose on their own MUA. Curfews and limits to the number of loud events ie concerts, which are the main fucking reason for this debacle of a stadium.

    Sheer and utter incompetence.

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    @shark said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Haha yeah triggered a little. I'm PMSL over all the restrictions the CCC is now looking to impose on their own MUA. Curfews and limits to the number of loud events ie concerts, which are the main fucking reason for this debacle of a stadium.

    Sheer and utter incompetence.

    Pretty common things for stadiums though. EP, Caketin etc all have restrictions on curfew/ noise limits/ amount per year.

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      Watching the Canterbury Earthquake National Memorial service. Ten years ago, today. So much pain still, and tears. This will stay with those affected forever. :crying_face:

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      @stargazer I think of myself as a “hard man “ but some stuff still gets to me. Trucks going past and shaking buildings etc. It was a horrible time that will
      Be with us for the rest of our lives.

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        Christchurch sports stadium: Government moves to acquire NG building

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          jeez, considering how much money council had thrown around in the last decade buying up these lots they much have really been holding out for fortune

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            Is this thing built yet?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              Is this thing built yet?

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              @antipodean i think theyre still only doing enabling works...its years away id say

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                Costs rising by the month (steel alone - reinforcing, structural and fixings - worldwide will be up around 25% from a couple of months ago, come next month), means the scope can only shrink and remarkably the CCC are still fucking around trying to buy a building on the fucking site.

                When is some c*nt in a position of power or with a public profile going to finally call these useless fucks out over their inordinately dumb idea to build an indoor stadium with the budget at hand??

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/124480208/moving-ng-building-away-from-christchurch-stadium-the-preferred-outcome

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124684403/christchurch-businesses-and-global-giants-form-stadium-consortium

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/124907017/christchurchnz-would-love-ability-for-new-stadium-to-seat-35000

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/124907017/christchurchnz-would-love-ability-for-new-stadium-to-seat-35000

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                        @duluth How can a city be "really comfortable" with capacity less than a city town a third its population?

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @duluth How can a city be "really comfortable" with capacity less than a city town a third its population?

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                          @antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr

                          i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games

                          I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k

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                            mr google told me

                            The North and South stands have a permanent seating capacity of approximately 20,000 spectators of which 18,000 are Alloyfold’s Albany stadium chairs.

                            this does not include the zoo or west stand only xtra seating not up permanently is east stand so 25000 ? permanent seating

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr

                              i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games

                              I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k

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                              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr

                              i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games

                              I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k

                              This seating plan suggests your numbers are off:
                              alt text

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                @antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr

                                i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games

                                I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k

                                This seating plan suggests your numbers are off:
                                alt text

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                                @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                @ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats

                                even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners

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                                  @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  @ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats

                                  even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?

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                                    @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                    @ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats

                                    even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners

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                                    https://populous.com/new-zealands-revolutionary-forsyth-barr-stadium-a-true-hybrid-to-function-as-both-an-international-sports-stadium-and-a-world-class-entertainment-arena

                                    west stand can be added to per permanent now as is always up

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                      So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?

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                                      @antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                      So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?

                                      i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year

                                      also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full

                                      and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too

                                      designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                        So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?

                                        i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year

                                        also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full

                                        and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too

                                        designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games

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                                        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                        So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?

                                        i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year

                                        also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full

                                        and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too

                                        designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games

                                        In an era where NZR is still committed to allowing regions outside of Auckland to host All Black fixtures the respective seating capacity is relevant. Furthermore, the design of Forsyth-Barr lends itself to other uses than merely a football stadium/ concert venue. Regardless of how permanent the seats are, the capacity of a smaller town makes a mockery of Christchurch's small ambitions.

                                        I'm not surprised it isn't difficult to get tickets to sit at league park to freeze at night. We're talking about a new inner-city stadium that won't be replaced for decades.

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                                          Are we sort of at the point where they should ignore the numbers and just build a great, modern 45,000 seat stadium?

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