Stadium of Canterbury
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@rapido worth a shot :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
But I will drop this back of the envelope calulation - Eden Park compared to Auckland's population is actually a bigger ratio than 98,000 MCG in a 4,000,000 Melbourne (2.45% of Melbourne to fill the MCG, compared to 3% of Auckland to fill Eden Park).
Actually. I should have googled first ... I see Melbourne is now 5 million, which is 1.96%. Buof course it's been that capacity roughly , despite the guises of the stands, since approx 1956 olympics when population was about 1.5 million.
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I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.
Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.
It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.
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@rapido melbourne does have Marvet stadium and AAMI park too i guess
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@rapido melbourne does have Marvet stadium and AAMI park too i guess
Yeah, I'm not poo-poohing their attendances. I'm very jealous of AFL with their traditional jerseys (and now their shorts aren't porno grade), minimal shirt sponsors and packed stadiums.
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Tauranga Domain has gone from 'we need a bigger stadium' to 'just right'. Probably not worth spending well north of $100 million for a massive upgrade that might get filled with a tier two All Blacks match every second year. (Just freeload on the 'Tron ratepayers across the hill
), and maybe one Chiefs game a year.I've been wondering about lights for the Domain, but even that may be a blessing in disguise with September and October sunny afternoon rugby.
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Tauranga Domain has gone from 'we need a bigger stadium' to 'just right'. Probably not worth spending well north of $100 million for a massive upgrade that might get filled with a tier two All Blacks match every second year. (Just freeload on the 'Tron ratepayers across the hill
), and maybe one Chiefs game a year.I've been wondering about lights for the Domain, but even that may be a blessing in disguise with September and October sunny afternoon rugby.
@donsteppa said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Tauranga Domain has gone from 'we need a bigger stadium' to 'just right'. Probably not worth spending well north of $100 million for a massive upgrade that might get filled with a tier two All Blacks match every second year. (Just freeload on the 'Tron ratepayers across the hill
), and maybe one Chiefs game a year.I've been wondering about lights for the Domain, but even that may be a blessing in disguise with September and October sunny afternoon rugby.
Definitely a blessing in disguise.
Rotorua gets the crappy Thursday or Friday night games for sky. Tauranga with their 'poor' stadium get only the nice sunny Saturday and Sunday afternoons.
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@rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
They used an athletics stadium in the RLWC? That was a bit shit, I admit.
that's Barlow Park, that will be upgraded, but these guys want rebuilt in to a modern stadium.
Barlow Park has a decent surface, but as a "stadium it's terrible. The crowd is miles from the field (i played the curtain raiser to the Reds v Crusaders in 2011 in front of about 5,000 people and you could hardly hear them on field)
The only national team we have is the Taipans. And i am not sure the recent development of the convention centre even increased capacity. A large stadium makes absolutely no sense
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@mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:
on a related but completely opposite note, the same dreamers who are always pushing this stuff are trying to leverage our possibility of hosting Olympic football in 2032 to once again try for a 20,000 seat stadium
In a city of 150,000
without a major sports team to play in it
I am sure the 800 strong crowd at a Northern Pride game will loooove all the additional space
I am becoming more and more convinced that the people who work in public infrastructure are mentally deficient
It's interesting the stadium capacities for NZ towns and cities compared to size of town. They are ridiculous.
(I've used the new proposed one for Chch)
OK, some of them are just a grandstand plus banks and terraces. But still.
Invercargill is probably not much different to current Cairns. But I assume the new Cairns proposal is more bells and whistles than Rugby Park, and whatever Cairns have. They used an athletics stadium in the RLWC? That was a bit shit, I admit.
Population Stadium Capapcity % of population
Whangarei 54400 18500 34%
Auckland 1470000 47000 3%
Pukekohe 26500 12000 45%
Hamilton 176500 25800 15%
Tauranga 151300 5000 3%
New Plymouth 57600 22000 38%
Napier-Hastings 115300 19700 17%
Palmerston North 81500 15000 18%
Wellington 429700 34500 8%
Nelson 51100 18000 35%
Christchurch 383200 25000 7%
Dunedin 106200 30748 29%
Invercargill 50200 18000 36% -
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get
Just here to support your argument, there is definitely more than 10.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get
Just here to support your argument, there is definitely more than 10.
@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
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@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
checking is a step too far
For god's sake don't do that, completely against the fern ethos.
Had me worried for a minute there.
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@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
Lords and The Oval.
However ... Watford and Reading aren't London.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far
Lords and The Oval.
However ... Watford and Reading aren't London.
@rapido watfords at least inside the M25...;)
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@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
@kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.
I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.
However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
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@shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?
No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?
No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.
@chris good, i dont feel bad about flaming my aunt and some friends that i know live in rural canterbury suddenly becoming very vocal on the socals about it, fair enough those that will actually pay and use it
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@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10
the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums
edit: looked it up, exactly 10
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
That new Brentford one is 20k isn't it ? Nice tidy development with housing etc.
- Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
