Six Nations 2017

[Derm McCrum]

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

So it just wasn't me then....

[Kruse]

@Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

So it just wasn't me then....

That Eddie has an electric probe up inside of?

[Derm McCrum]

@Kruse said in Six Nations 2017:

@Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

So it just wasn't me then....

That Eddie has an electric probe up inside of?

Yes. Or Mark McCall needs to replace the batteries in his one..

[Stargazer]

[Bones]

No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

[Crucial]

@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

Yep.

WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

*Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
Dominic Day
Taulupe Faletau
George North
Rhys Priestland
Jamie Roberts
Nicky Thomas
Rhodri Williams

There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

[Catogrande]

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

Yep.

WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

*Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
Dominic Day
Taulupe Faletau
George North
Rhys Priestland
Jamie Roberts
Nicky Thomas
Rhodri Williams

There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

[Crucial]

@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

Yep.

WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

*Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
Dominic Day
Taulupe Faletau
George North
Rhys Priestland
Jamie Roberts
Nicky Thomas
Rhodri Williams

There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

FIIK.

Welsh logic?

[Catogrande]

@Crucial Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks.

[Derm McCrum]

@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

@Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

@Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

Yep.

WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

*Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
Dominic Day
Taulupe Faletau
George North
Rhys Priestland
Jamie Roberts
Nicky Thomas
Rhodri Williams

There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

They signed overseas before Gatland's Law was introduced so are not affected. http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/37316886

[Catogrande]

@Pot-Hale OK, thanks PH, that makes sense of a sort.

[Stargazer]

[Stargazer]

French squad for the 6 Nations:

[gollum]

@Stargazer

Their Kiwi / Samoan prop (Atonio) is 6'5 & 155kg. I guess he balances out no Bastaraud

[Derm McCrum]

Joe Schmidt looking to extract the most from Six Nations squad hopefuls with his squad announcement not named until Sunday - after the final round of Heineken Cup matches in which Leinster, Munster and Connacht are competing for quarterfinal places and ideally home ground advantage.

[Margin_Walker]

England Squad

[Crucial]

I only just realised how big those squads are.

Scotland have 22 forwards in their squad!

[Margin_Walker]

@Crucial

Yeah, training squads though I guess. Will be a bunch of players released back to their clubs in the run up to each game.

For England, I think Catt, Williams and Lozowski are the only uncapped players. With Catt perhaps the best chance of getting into the 23.

[Crucial]

I wonder what the contract rules are (if any)?
In NZ if you get named in an AB squad you get paid accordingly whether used or not. That's why Hansen and Co often have to plead their case for an extra player or two to the bean counters before a tour

[Margin_Walker]

I'd be guessing, but assume for England you get a decent steady income for being part of the Elite Player Squad that's revised twice a year and a match fee for being part of the 23 on game day. Not sure how players not part of the EPS and that don't end up on the pitch are paid.