Parker v ??

[Bovidae]

@Paekakboyz As one of the comments said, it wasn't a back injury but a lack of spine.

[Paekakboyz]

@Bovidae

[kiwiinmelb]

Not Parker news , but boxing news ,
Welterweight title fight tomorrow ( sunday ) morning , Kell Brook v Errol Spence , this is a great match up ,
Brook the experienced champ from England , undefeated at welterweight , the one loss when moved up 2 weight divisions to fight triple G
Spence the young black fighter from america heralded as the next big thing ,undefeated , been knocking out all of his opponents , but this is his first big test ,
30,000 sold out Sheffield , England
and bonus for those living in Aus , its on live , free to air on foxtel , 5am - 9am

[kiwiinmelb]

Bit of boxing news , parker fans will be used to Jeff Horn , aussie fighter , managed by Duco , fought on Joes undercards quite a few times ,

Pulled off possibly the boxing upset of the year today beating PacMan in a controversial points decision,

I watched it on a stream , stream was dropping in a and out a bit , but saw most of it ,

I thought Manny did enough to win , but in saying that Horn was taking it to him and fought a courageous fight ,

WBO Welterweight champion

[Paekakboyz]

That is massive. I know Pacman is past his best, but I thought he'd beat Horn tidily. Well done that man! Great scalp!

[kiwiinmelb]

There was a massive crowd there at Suncorp , great atmosphere ,

The aussie government put up millions to get Manny out ,

Bob Arum seems to be all over Horn now, talking about some big fights in America for him

[Bovidae]

I see ESPN are calling the Horn decision suspect.

There is some Parker news. The money better be very good for Duco to bend over for the Furys.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/94291934/joseph-parkers-promoter-buries-the-hatchet-with-team-fury-to-reschedule-heavyweight-title-fight

[PecoTrain]

@kiwiinmelb

From the article on Deadspin:
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/large-tub-of-potato-salad-beats-manny-pacquiao-is-new-1796583495

[African Monkey]

I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

[kiwiinmelb]

@African-Monkey said in Parker v ??:

I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

No its not ,

I think Manny needs to hang them up , 8 division champion , nothing to prove now , its time for the younger guys,

if he gets in the ring with the likes of Thurman or Spence he will probably get knocked out

[JK]

I watched the whole fight and backed horn pretty heavily on the TAB. Thought he put up a great effort but didnt expect him to get the decision at the end of it all. Pretty suspect IMHO as well but big ups to Horn for hanging in there and coming back so well after the ninth.

[antipodean]

@African-Monkey said in Parker v ??:

I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

I think it says something when people with a credible investment in the sport publicly state they think the judges got it badly wrong.

[African Monkey]

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[kiwiinmelb]

and also worth noting ,

Lonergan may have his money making PPV earner now ,

and its not Parker after all , the welterweight division is very competitive with many options for Horn

[mimic]

@PecoTrain said in Parker v ??:

@kiwiinmelb

From the article on Deadspin:
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/large-tub-of-potato-salad-beats-manny-pacquiao-is-new-1796583495

Would be better if they did the stats breakdown by rounds.. Isn't that how they judge the fights? By rounds rather than holistically..
Also would be good to see the judges scorecard to see their decisions

[kiwiinmelb]

@mimic I thought Manny won , but close

But I didnt think it was as dominant like those stats indicate ,

It seems like every time someone loses these days in controversial circumstances , some stats like that appear and get shared around the internet , facebook stats

Like the Ward , Kovalev fight last year , there were a few rounds that could be judged either way , and there lies the problem , its almost opinion based ,

either way , Horn fought a great fight and its a shame people are talking about him like he is a bum ,

[raznomore]

It shits me that Duco could engineer this. Horn clearly lost in my eyes.

I wish there was an boxing computer operated scoring system. Some smart cookie out there must be able to come up with an algorithm that completely eliminates the corrupt SOBs called judges these days.

[raznomore]

I saw stuff had a nothing article today about Parker getting a "boost" from Hughie being barred from official warm up matches for the title fight.

Not sure what type of boost this is to Parker as Fury is still fight this weekend in an unsanctioned fight....

[Crucial]

Fairly good summation of this weekends fight here
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/09/21/49204/parker-v-fury-the-battle-for-credibility

Parker v Fury: the battle for credibility

Forget about the referee. Forget about the ‘unhinged’ promoters. Forget the memes, mimicry and Manchester mafia.

Despite the sideshows, Sunday morning’s world heavyweight title fight between Joseph Parker and Hughie Fury still boils down to two men with plenty to prove getting their chance to seize their destiny, and quieten their doubters.

It’s a battle of the unconvincing, with the prize on offer a healthy dollop of ‘I told you so’, the promise of an even bigger payday and a WBO belt that remains the key to unlocking doors to rooms filled with loot.

Parker’s most recent display against Razvan Cojanu played firmly into the minds of those who questioned his world champion bona fides after what they saw was a lucky, unconvincing victory against Andy Ruiz for the vacant title.

The popular young Kiwi has an army of faithful fans, but the ranks of the non-believers has swelled.

Fury, by contrast, has convinced precisely nobody outside his inner circle that he is genuine world champion material. He’s the cousin of Tyson, the son of Peter, a young man with pedigree but a track record of inactivity, dubious injuries, failed drug tests and, when he does fight, a habit of climbing in the rings with bums.

The battle between two of boxing’s young guns hardly stacks up as a battle of equals.

On paper, Parker is the giant of the pair, despite the fact Fury stands an imposing 198cm.

The 20-0 Fury may be undefeated, but he has padded his record against opponents of dubious quality, while Parker has mainly assisted grizzled veterans on their journey down from the top of a hill they crested some years ago.

Fury is three years Parker’s junior, however the pair debuted in the pro ranks just six months apart and have similar records – well, sort of similar. While Parker (23-0) knocked off the likes of former title contenders Kali Meehan and Franz Botha and regional champs such as Yakup Saglam, Irineu Beato Costa Junior (experienced pros with decent decent records), Fury has mainly fought losers.

Seven of Fury’s 20 opponents have lost more fights than they have won. Czech Tomas Mrazek, who Fury beat on points over six rounds in 2013, has chalked up 40 defeats and just seven wins. As recently as 2015 – just three fights ago – Fury tuned up with a first round K.O. of the 'War Machine', aka 39-year-old Hackney resident Larry Olubamiwo, a fighter boasting an 11-19 record.

All-up, Fury’s victims boast a combined record of 275-240-23, for a winning percentage of just 0.51.

Parker’s 23 opponents have a 510-56-14 record – a winning percentage of 0.88. Just three of his opponents have lost more fights than they have won. The last of those was the 0-1 Dontay Pati, who Parker faced in 2013 in just his fourth pro fight.

“People always look at records but I don’t think you should,” Parker said shorlty before his first date with Fury in Auckland was aborted. “People say I’ve fought better opposition. That doesn’t matter. Once you get an opportunity to fight for a world title you’ll take it. The way I see it is that he has a great team behind him.”

Parker has a point. At just 22, it is no surprise Fury has been handled carefully. And his father and trainer, Peter, has form when it comes to plotting a trouble-free path to a big money world title shot, before engineering a massive shock.

Hughie’s cousin Tyson fought Dereck Chisora twice and that was about it before dethroning Wladimir Klitschko to claim the WBO, IBF and WBA titles in 2015.

“Tyson Fury is a perfect example of somebody coming in and causing a lot of trouble, surprising everyone,” says Parker. “Everyone thought Klitschko was going to walk all over him. He proved everyone wrong.”

With Tyson sporting a 25-0 record, it’s worth noting that both of Peter Fury’s charges are yet to suffer a professional defeat. And both fight an awkward, “gypsy” style that can be difficult to counter.

“Peter Fury is a very good coach, very thorough,” says Parker. “They are going to come into this fight with a good game plan.”

Parker, meanwhile, is overdue when it comes to bringing some genuine venom of his own. He was always in control of his victories over Ruiz and Cojanu, but never established the sort of dominance that would suggest he is a genuine rival for the likes of Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder.

Sunday marks his entry into the British market and, regardless of the shenanigans in the build-up, the size of the crowd and the number of pay-per-view buys, his standing will be determined solely on what he produces in the ring.

Parker needs to convince the non-believers with a knockout. But, more importantly, he needs to demonstrate that he truly believes in himself.

[kiwiinmelb]

yeah it is ,

Parker needs to impress people if he wants to go to the next level , he has looked lackluster recently

its all about marketability , selling PPVs,

and right now in international boxing circles, people think he is a bit boring