Americas Cup
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@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@canefan said in Americas Cup:
@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
Alot of floating about in the races today.
Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.
Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".
Sounds like the AC in Fremantle, with 12m yachts when the winds weren't in
A bit different really, due to the foiling aspect. These things are basically stationary as displacement boats, until they can achieve enough power to foil then they are rocket ships. The 12m didn't have that range of speed. These things are on or off, 12m were pretty conventional, finding an extra 3kts of pressure was good, but not give you another 30 kts. The percentage comparison is enormous.
I was just joking about the slow pace in light or no wind
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Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts. -
Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.Yeah that was what I was getting at with the 6 kt limit. Maybe our design guys reckon we can do that and that is why it was set there. Maybe Prada do too as challenger of record.
We haven't seen any races up to 20kt yet I don't think, so hard to say about comment two. Sailing ability comes into all conditions really and boat speed will depend on foil design for lighter or heavier air. Instability at really high speeds, risk of capsize, cartwheel, pitch pole against a displacement "race". These things have a tiny skeg (rather than keel) which the foils have to act as, otherwise they can just go sideways in light air.
Ainslie definitely the gun at the start.
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that was a crazy end to that leg!!
And now race abandoned, due to a big wind shift?
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that was a crazy end to that leg!!
And now race abandoned, due to a big wind shift?
@taniwharugby amazing. Can't remember such a massive shift... Sailing away from the marks is weird
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So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.
Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.
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So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.
Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.
@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.
Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.
Poor Deano
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@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.
Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.
Poor Deano
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Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell
Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'!
@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell
Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'!
Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.
Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?
Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea
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@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell
Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'!
Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.
Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?
Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea
@nzzp thought Luna Rossa was lucky not to have a capsize or do damage at the end of that leg just prior to abandonment, looked like they turned the rudder just as they got a bit of air and came down slightly sideways
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@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell
Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'!
Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.
Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?
Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea
@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell
Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'!
Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.
Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?
Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea
Coutts owns the IP for sinking boats.
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Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
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Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down
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Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
It looks like where the hydraulic pumps are to lift the foil arms? From what I have seen they are quite large and probably heavy. The way they came down and impacted on "landing" I wouldn't be surprised if the pumps just kept on going. Guessing of course.
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@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?
That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down
@canefan said in Americas Cup:
That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down
The capsize after the splash down might explain that. The hole was out of the water with the boat on it's side (maybe). I don't recall seeing a shot of the bottom of the hull after it had gone over.
It was certainly spectacular.
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Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.
The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.
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Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.
The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.
@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.
The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.
I didn't hear him say that, but sure is what it looks like. Right where the pumps are as I said above.
