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  • SnowyS Snowy

    Almost all of the comments about the nautical mile are true. Which is amusing, in that we can manage to disagree / clarify on issues that have changed, and do change with time, including the semantics. The earth being an oblate spheroid that is constantly on the move is an annoyance that we have to live with.

    Full disclosure: 100% in commercial pilot navigation exam (I think these things have come up about school C so thought that I should throw that in there) and a whole bunch of other shit that nobody wants to hear about.

    I think that we should discuss map projections now. What is everyone's favourite and why? I've always been a fan (shouldn't use that word, the lambert conical supporters will be all over it) of the Mercator. It just makes NZ look bigger. A bit shit for navigation, but the symmetry is nice.

    As for the racing- it really is getting boring. Port entry wins unless someone seriously screws up. I think that we do have an edge in speed overall, but if we are behind it isn't enough to get in front. @Crucial may well be correct and with one extra port entry that might be the decider.

    The engineers, designers, etc, did a great job with fascinating machines to watch but the race organisers, committee dropped the ball IMO. Too much about spectators on shore, TB coverage and not enough about creating a contest between the boats. Wider courses with probably longer races would have helped. can anyone remind me when there was a pass? I feel that I can just watch the start and walk away now.

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    @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

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      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

      @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

      If you use a big enough scale, yes!

      I do like me some Myriahedral Projections

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      Not for actual navigation tho 😉

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

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        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

        @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

        It would make things easier. That sky fairy really fucked it up.

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          Some variety today, the other race track course to be used.

          https://twitter.com/americascup/status/1370491323359371265?s=20

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            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

            @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

            If you use a big enough scale, yes!

            I do like me some Myriahedral Projections

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            Not for actual navigation tho 😉

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            @machpants said in Americas Cup:

            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

            @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

            If you use a big enough scale, yes!

            I do like me some Myriahedral Projections

            c5caad94-3228-4f72-9a09-30d4dba2d135-image.png

            alt text

            f39c14e9-6e4e-4723-a76a-aec673686073-image.png

            Not for actual navigation tho 😉

            Milo.
            I will be fluent in Polish before I am done with the Fern.

            7-11kts according to AC website for the match. Have they announced a course?

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Some variety today, the other race track course to be used.

              https://twitter.com/americascup/status/1370491323359371265?s=20

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              @bovidae Thx. Posts crossed.

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                Whoops off the foils in pre start, well behind, very shit by TNZ. So as long as LR can keep it up (oo-er missus) the race is theirs.

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                  That start is stunning incompetence.

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                    So TNZ just straight up fucked that up right?

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                      These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

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                        This could be the defining race of the AC if LR wins against serve (so to speak).

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                          TNZ look to be covering more distance again.

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                            Burling is terrible at the starts. If you go back to the last cup it was exactly the same except when he lost the starts then he had the speed to catch up. Now his starts are sinking his team.

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                              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                              I think that we should discuss map projections now. What is everyone's favourite and why? I've always been a fan (shouldn't use that word, the lambert conical supporters will be all over it) of the Mercator. It just makes NZ look bigger. A bit shit for navigation, but the symmetry is nice.

                              I thought the Mercator had been confirmed to be racist?
                              You Racist.
                              In any case, with any of the cylindrical projections, including your racist Mercator.... I much prefer the version with China in the middle, rather than Europe. It just fits so much better, and incidentally with pleasing symmetry.

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                                These races are all incredibly dull. The format, course and boats are a dud this year.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

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                                  @tim said in Americas Cup:

                                  These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

                                  Especially in the light winds. We need some 20+ knots to make these races interesting. Otherwise 💤

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

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                                    @tim said in Americas Cup:

                                    These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

                                    Between that and Team NZ allegedly shopping around for overseas hosts if they retain the Cup, its the first Americas Cup that I haven't cared much about.

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                                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                      @tim said in Americas Cup:

                                      These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

                                      Between that and Team NZ allegedly shopping around for overseas hosts if they retain the Cup, its the first Americas Cup that I haven't cared much about.

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                                      @donsteppa said in Americas Cup:

                                      @tim said in Americas Cup:

                                      These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

                                      Between that and Team NZ allegedly shopping around for overseas hosts if they retain the Cup, its the first one I can't remember caring much about.

                                      Well local knowledge doesn't appear to have been of any help. LR clearly more manoeuvrable in these conditions and piloted by someone who can work out time and distance.

                                      There should be some pointed questions asked after this shitshow of a race.

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                                        NZ govt apparently paid ~ $40M for hosting rights. Do they get any TV broadcast revenue?

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                                          NZ govt apparently paid ~ $40M for hosting rights. Do they get any TV broadcast revenue?

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                                          @tim You'd have to think they should get plenty of mileage out of the coverage for it this year though.

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