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    Machpants
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    Yeah makes perfect sense when you know the answer! Sorry for not being clearer

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      From this article:
      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
      Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
      Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
      France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
      Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
      Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
      Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
      Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
      South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
      England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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        From this article:
        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
        Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
        Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
        France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
        Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
        Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
        Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
        Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
        South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
        England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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        @machpants shows the clear bias by referees towards nations with teams in the NH hemisphere competitions.

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          Apart from the Boks?

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          • M Machpants

            From this article:
            Tier 1 card counts - 2017

            New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
            Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
            Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
            France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
            Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
            Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
            Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
            Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
            South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
            England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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            @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            From this article:
            Tier 1 card counts - 2017

            New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

            Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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              From this article:
              Tier 1 card counts - 2017

              New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
              Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
              Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
              France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
              Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
              Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
              Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
              Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
              South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
              England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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              @machpants is it odd that NO Northern Hemisphere 6Nations team got any red cards in 2017? are they really that well behaved or do they not know how to tackle so hard that the referee calls it illegal and dishes out a red card 🍭

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              • M Machpants

                Apart from the Boks?

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                @machpants think you'll find they have teams in NH competition 😉

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  From this article:
                  Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                  New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                  Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                  @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  From this article:
                  Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                  New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                  Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

                  Not sure SBW yellow ought to count, being a technical card for trying to use a league stunt in a rugby test?

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                  • M Machpants

                    From this article:
                    Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                    New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                    England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                    @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    From this article:
                    Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                    New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                    France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                    South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                    England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

                    Those statistics only mean something relative to the number of games. However I imagine all teams played roughly the same number of games.

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                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      From this article:
                      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                      Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                      Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                      France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                      Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                      Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                      Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                      Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                      South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                      England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

                      Those statistics only mean something relative to the number of games. However I imagine all teams played roughly the same number of games.

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                      @billy-tell Do your homework! 🙂

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                        I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403

                        But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact.
                        
                        "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball.
                        
                        "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira.
                        
                        "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."
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                          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403

                          But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact.
                          
                          "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball.
                          
                          "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira.
                          
                          "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."
                          

                          So Frizell is more assertive off the ball in his 34 minutes per game than Akira in his 80 minutes ... I guess that's a summary.

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                            @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403

                            But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact.
                            
                            "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball.
                            
                            "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira.
                            
                            "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."
                            

                            So Frizell is more assertive off the ball in his 34 minutes per game than Akira in his 80 minutes ... I guess that's a summary.

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                            @nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.

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                              Bloody hell. They may need Crockzilla after all ...

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/998777137254416384

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/998777203889336321

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                                Has there been any reaction to Frizell's selection from across the Ta$man?

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                                  @KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...

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                                    Don't get me wrong about Frizell though, TBH I haven't really seen him play at all this year so can't really comment. Be great if he turned out to be the next Kaino, God knows we need it if flat-track-bully Squire is next in line.

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                                      @KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...

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                                      @no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...

                                      Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.

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                                        @no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        @KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...

                                        Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.

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                                        @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.

                                        Like Fifita? 🤣

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.

                                          Like Fifita? 🤣

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                                          @bovidae worse. At least Fifita did part of his schooling in NZ.

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