All Blacks Squad for France
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403
But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact. "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball. "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira. "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."So Frizell is more assertive off the ball in his 34 minutes per game than Akira in his 80 minutes ... I guess that's a summary.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403
But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact. "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball. "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira. "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."So Frizell is more assertive off the ball in his 34 minutes per game than Akira in his 80 minutes ... I guess that's a summary.
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
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Bloody hell. They may need Crockzilla after all ...
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@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
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Don't get me wrong about Frizell though, TBH I haven't really seen him play at all this year so can't really comment. Be great if he turned out to be the next Kaino, God knows we need it if flat-track-bully Squire is next in line.
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@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Like Fifita?
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Like Fifita?
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Get off the fern Stephen Jones
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
Playing for the ABs is seen as the ultimate goal for a lot of PI players. No doubt money plays a part, but there are cultural aspects to it as well.
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That photo shows you how many support staff are involved. I don't even know who half of them are!
@bovidae Good to see Akira Ioane there as part of the coaching staff.
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The poaching thing used to annoy me as we were trolled when we weren't actually doing any poaching, instead Polynesian-New Zealanders were country swapping.
Now we are actually doing it, so I'm chilled. Nothing to actually be annoyed about now. I expect plenty more, been a trend of about 1 every 2 years for the last decade.
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@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
