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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.

    Have to throw the locals a bone. 😉

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    @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
    Have to throw the locals a bone.

    ugh

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      I wouldn't be surprised if they start Perry and bring big Karl off the bench.
      Have to throw the locals a bone.

      ugh

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      @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

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        in here will do...

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106682354/all-blacks-lethal-counter-attack-strategy-due-to-john-mitchells-basketball-background

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          hahaha holy shit.

          And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

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            #64

            is "mastery of "transition" opportunities" just another way of saying "journey"?

            So a guy reputedly responsible for our attacking play is taking on the English defensive role?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              in here will do...

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106682354/all-blacks-lethal-counter-attack-strategy-due-to-john-mitchells-basketball-background

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              @taniwharugby I can see why Harris no longer writes for The Australian. Now if they could just get rid of Wayne Smith.

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                Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

                  Am pretty sure I heard Shag say that Crotty will be available for selection next weekend. Would rather see him take the rest of the year off though but they do have the best medical advice available I suppose.

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    @98blueandgold be surprised if we see Crotty again this series, if at all this season.

                    Am pretty sure I heard Shag say that Crotty will be available for selection next weekend. Would rather see him take the rest of the year off though but they do have the best medical advice available I suppose.

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                    @akan004 yeah I know, same applies to Cane, and I expect with the head knocks it is largely bad luck (poor technique the odd time) so if they are right then they are right...although they are still learning when it comes to the effects of concussion arent they.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

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                      @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                      Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                      Chicken egg situation there

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

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                        @bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                        @rapido I just think that Hansen and co might believe that Tu'inukuafe is the better impact sub of the two.

                        Sure, but there is the possibility of having big trouble at scrum time if Perry has to face Juan Figallo who was outstanding vs Mtwawarira in the last test.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          hahaha holy shit.

                          And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          hahaha holy shit.

                          And they spelled Peter Sloane wrong

                          Hahaha, you got there before me, just saw it now ... although shouldn't it (really) be that they spelled Henry wrong.

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                            Couple of observations:

                            Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..

                            • Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.

                            • If Mo'unga gets a start it wouldn't make sense to have Laumape starting -- better ALB. Goodhue to get rest in second and ALB to 13.

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                            • P pakman

                              Couple of observations:

                              Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..

                              • Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.

                              • If Mo'unga gets a start it wouldn't make sense to have Laumape starting -- better ALB. Goodhue to get rest in second and ALB to 13.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              Couple of observations:

                              Assuming they rest Crotty and Cane (which I hope they do)..

                              • Who is back up for Savea? That might argue for Frizzell to cover 6 and 7.

                              Don't think Frizell would have ever played 7. Ta$man have used him at lock and 6.

                              Not sure if Luke Whitelock has played 7, but he'd be a better candidate I think - a bit more mobile.

                              That they haven't pulled another openside into the squad probably points that Cane is going to be good to go.

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                              • RapidoR Rapido

                                This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

                                I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

                                KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

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                                @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

                                I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

                                KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

                                Stay on topic.

                                Now about that whitebaiting.

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                                  @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                  Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                  Chicken egg situation there

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                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                  Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                  Chicken egg situation there

                                  But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....

                                  So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.

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                                    Tbh I think they should move on from Crotty. The guy seems to barely ever complete a whole game, let alone a season. Yes, he's great when fit, but he just breaks the entire farking time.

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                                    • RapidoR Rapido

                                      This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

                                      I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

                                      KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

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                                      @rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      This is very good news actually that NZ are forced to get some starts in Tuinukiafe, and the injury to Moody is as minor as a thumb fracture.

                                      I say this believing, as far as I know, that Moody is the best current LHP in test rugby.

                                      KT needs some serious (starting) minutes before RWC.

                                      Yeah - it seems he's slipped ahead of Tim Perry in the pecking order, so I don't see why he wouldn't start.

                                      Hopefully Kane Hames will be back in the mix next year and we'll have four looseheads with test experience.

                                      Getting Nepo Laulala back on the tighthead side should give us a good hand of propping options with Karl and Ofa apparently ambidextrous (or should that be ambicaputrous)?

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                        Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                        Chicken egg situation there

                                        But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....

                                        So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.

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                                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                        Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                        Chicken egg situation there

                                        But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....

                                        So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.

                                        Reaching ... and we all know by Mitchell you mean Deans. 😏

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                          Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                          Chicken egg situation there

                                          But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....

                                          So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.

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                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          Anyway, we all know Mitchell pinched his tactics from the 03 Blues (but forgot the part about forward dominance).

                                          Yeah he pinched the counter attack off the Blues and used their back 3 of Mils , Joe and Howlett , they were doing it through the 03 super rugby season , where ironically Henry was an assistant , Mitchell wasnt doing it the year before ,

                                          Chicken egg situation there

                                          But Mils was playing centre at the Blues and Rok was rotated on the wing with Gear. Howlett played fullback for most of that Blues season. And lets not forget the most damaging player on that Blues back 3 that year did not make the ABs.....

                                          So Mitchell did vary it quite a bit.

                                          I thought they were rotated a fair bit ,can remember Rico Gear playing 13 as well when mils played FB , But it was a long time ago ,

                                          And they did try to get Rupeni

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