AB EOYT 2018
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We've also seen a guy playing 12 in the NPC and who had never played Super rugby selected as a 15 mid RWC.
@nepia We had some fat bloke plucked from whitebaiting sent into the RWC final!
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@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
I think it's deliberate - you find out at the same time as everyone else. I reckon it's pretty cool -- getting yoru name read out as a surprise must be awesome
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones perhaps a back but any history of a forward?
To counter that - any history of a player being so involved behind the scenes and never brought in to be shown in actual gameplay?
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I reckon Jordie will cover 10 from bench v Japan, but the starting 10 will play full 80. Inshallah.
Havili also in bench, or starting, to cover for Jordie if he does actually have to move into 10 during the game.
I think starting 10 will be Mo-ouga, with the 2 10/15s going to England the week early with the 23.
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than Ioane, ever?
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than Ioane, ever?
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
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I reckon Jordie will cover 10 from bench v Japan, but the starting 10 will play full 80. Inshallah.
Havili also in bench, or starting, to cover for Jordie if he does actually have to move into 10 during the game.
I think starting 10 will be Mo-ouga, with the 2 10/15s going to England the week early with the 23.
@rapido I'd forgotten that there's a school of thought that Jordie can play 10 at a pinch - and that maybe Hansen subscribes to it.
In which case, what might happen is that only one of DMac or Mo'unga stays in Japan and plans to play the whole match. Cameron covers 10 from the bench and Jordie is the emergency cover and still starts at fullback.
I don't really like that plan though - we don't want to get rolled by the Blossoms - so I'd be inclined to keep two of the main first fives in Japan. Just not the guy who will start vs England.
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@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
I think it's deliberate - you find out at the same time as everyone else. I reckon it's pretty cool -- getting yoru name read out as a surprise must be awesome
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
I think it's deliberate - you find out at the same time as everyone else. I reckon it's pretty cool -- getting yoru name read out as a surprise must be awesome
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than Ioane, ever?
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than Ioane, ever?
Not entirely the same, but even more frustrating for the player. JTA got his test debut in 2013 and had to wait four years (spending time with the ABs in camp on several occasions IIRC) until he finally got to play in black again in two non-test games in November 2017.
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@rapido I'd forgotten that there's a school of thought that Jordie can play 10 at a pinch - and that maybe Hansen subscribes to it.
In which case, what might happen is that only one of DMac or Mo'unga stays in Japan and plans to play the whole match. Cameron covers 10 from the bench and Jordie is the emergency cover and still starts at fullback.
I don't really like that plan though - we don't want to get rolled by the Blossoms - so I'd be inclined to keep two of the main first fives in Japan. Just not the guy who will start vs England.
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I guess I've probably heard of Reuben O'Neill, but I can't recall it. However, I knew they needed another loosehead and was struggling to think who it would be. I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.
Brett Cameron is the other one that surprises the hell out of me. I would have gone with Black, Hunt, Gatland and Perofeta ahead of him. And, I suspect he'll be sitting on the bench. (Actually, on second thoughts probably not - they need to have three first fives in Japan in case of a late injury).
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
@taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team!
Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
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@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
I think it's deliberate - you find out at the same time as everyone else. I reckon it's pretty cool -- getting yoru name read out as a surprise must be awesome
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
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@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person
mariner4life fucking hates those guys
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
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@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
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@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
