AB EOYT 2018
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I guess I've probably heard of Reuben O'Neill, but I can't recall it. However, I knew they needed another loosehead and was struggling to think who it would be. I'd gone for Hodgman, but I think he must be injured.
Brett Cameron is the other one that surprises the hell out of me. I would have gone with Black, Hunt, Gatland and Perofeta ahead of him. And, I suspect he'll be sitting on the bench. (Actually, on second thoughts probably not - they need to have three first fives in Japan in case of a late injury).
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
@taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team!

Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
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@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby I think Todd was more ringing Hansen informally to seek advice and not pull a Steven Luatua. But, who knows - the story could be bullshit for all I know.
Does seem a bit odd the newbies only finding out when everyone else does. Usually, they know a day or so ahead of time and "only told mum and dad!".
Mind you - if I thought I had any chance of being picked I'd be glued to the live stream.
I think it's deliberate - you find out at the same time as everyone else. I reckon it's pretty cool -- getting yoru name read out as a surprise must be awesome
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
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@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person
mariner4life fucking hates those guys
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
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@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

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@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
@bones well that is a positive spin. He has been in the mix for quite a while and we need some more grunt in our forward pack. As for being the ace in the hole that other teams wont be able to plan for I think that is bit of a reach. It is not so much getting offended on his behalf it is that for a lot of the fern he seems like he should be in there especially compared to some others. I guess we will never know what is going on behind the scenes. Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
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@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
@mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too

A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
Uncle dad Yasser says no.
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@bones well that is a positive spin. He has been in the mix for quite a while and we need some more grunt in our forward pack. As for being the ace in the hole that other teams wont be able to plan for I think that is bit of a reach. It is not so much getting offended on his behalf it is that for a lot of the fern he seems like he should be in there especially compared to some others. I guess we will never know what is going on behind the scenes. Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
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And what about Reuben O'Neill ?
He is the biggest surprise in this selection, shared with Cameron's.
Next year, when the likes of Hames, Moli, Fidow and even Ross are back, I guess he won't be on the radar again.
However, I think he's had a pretty solid M10 Cup this year, playing soundly on both sides of the scrum. Being selected at the expense of JTA is a real shock though. -
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
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@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
@nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
Whatโs the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
Two for Akira wasnโt it?
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@nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.
@act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.
Surely there's some tenuous link to the crusaders that has him pencilled into a starting line-up?