AB EOYT 2018
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones skips my memory. Do you have someone in mind to make your point?S
Is there a player that has been in more camps (or just behind the scenes involvement) than ever?
So I am missing your point. He has been i nvolved in a lot of camps and overlooked for game time. So he gets a participation trophy and a place in the Maoris team for a exotic adventure to the US, Chile and Brazil. Excellent opportunity to work on his work ons whatever they are.
It seems so. Look, has Ioane come out and had a whinge? Does anyone actually know what's going on behind the scenes? How do we know the zoo aren't keeping him close, communicating with him, scheming and planning on surprising the rugby world at the RWC?
He is a unique player and offers some very different qualities to a lot of what is in the ABs and international rugby right now. If they're confident they can put something in place to get the best out of him and time it to be something that other nations can't really plan for, why shouldn't we let them have at it? I haven't seen anything to point to Ioane being disillusioned, why is everyone getting offended on his behalf? That kind of behaviour is what most of the fern wails against.
@bones well that is a positive spin. He has been in the mix for quite a while and we need some more grunt in our forward pack. As for being the ace in the hole that other teams wont be able to plan for I think that is bit of a reach. It is not so much getting offended on his behalf it is that for a lot of the fern he seems like he should be in there especially compared to some others. I guess we will never know what is going on behind the scenes. What’s the word on the street NZZP?
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
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@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
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@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
@mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@bones good positive attitude!
Still holding hope for a call up to offer your type of different too
A non kicking, non passing, non running, non tackling fullback slash midfielder has more chance of being called up than Akira.
Shit I've just outed myself as Collins.
You're a great communicator
Racist prick, I'm 3rd gen NZer, I guess I should just go back to where I came from eh?
could you? That would be tops
Uncle dad Yasser says no.
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@bones well that is a positive spin. He has been in the mix for quite a while and we need some more grunt in our forward pack. As for being the ace in the hole that other teams wont be able to plan for I think that is bit of a reach. It is not so much getting offended on his behalf it is that for a lot of the fern he seems like he should be in there especially compared to some others. I guess we will never know what is going on behind the scenes. What’s the word on the street NZZP?
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
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And what about Reuben O'Neill ?
He is the biggest surprise in this selection, shared with Cameron's.
Next year, when the likes of Hames, Moli, Fidow and even Ross are back, I guess he won't be on the radar again.
However, I think he's had a pretty solid M10 Cup this year, playing soundly on both sides of the scrum. Being selected at the expense of JTA is a real shock though. -
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
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@canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:
CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time
Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.
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@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
Two for Akira wasn’t it?
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@nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.
@act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.
Surely there's some tenuous link to the crusaders that has him pencilled into a starting line-up?
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@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
Two for Akira wasn’t it?
@kirwan said in AB EOYT 2018:
@nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:
@broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:
What’s the word on the street NZZP?
Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.
You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori
Two for Akira wasn’t it?
Three by the look
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@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.
More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.
Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.
Absolutely. That Bok lock who looks like Bruno is my favourite player of all time. What a hunk....um I mean good player.....
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@taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team!
Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team!
Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
who would captain that side - Coles?
out of respect for Japan would be good to see a couple of bigger names in there - Sonny Bill for instance. Throw a couple of rookies into the Bledisloe game.
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Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12143287
Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3 15. Jordie Barrett 14. Nehe Milner-Skudder 13. Anton Lienert-Brown 12. Ngani Laumape 11. George Bridge 10. Damian McKenzie 9. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi 8. Luke Whitelock 7. Dalton Papalii 6. Jackson Hemopo 5. Patrick Tuipulotu 4. Luke Romano 3. Angus Ta'avao 2. Dane Coles 1. Tim Perry Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili. -
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
@taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team!
Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.
@chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:
Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.
Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett
Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor
Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili
who would captain that side - Coles?
out of respect for Japan would be good to see a couple of bigger names in there - Sonny Bill for instance. Throw a couple of rookies into the Bledisloe game.
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Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12143287
Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3 15. Jordie Barrett 14. Nehe Milner-Skudder 13. Anton Lienert-Brown 12. Ngani Laumape 11. George Bridge 10. Damian McKenzie 9. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi 8. Luke Whitelock 7. Dalton Papalii 6. Jackson Hemopo 5. Patrick Tuipulotu 4. Luke Romano 3. Angus Ta'avao 2. Dane Coles 1. Tim Perry Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.@kiwimurph I can't really see them going into a test match with Jordie as the back-up 10 - but, that's what McKendry is suggesting. At a minimum, I reckon Cameron on the bench - but, won't surprise me if they leave both McKenzie and Mo'unga in Japan.
They're going to need to leave one of Ofa or Big Karl in Tokyo to cover both sides of the scrum in case of a late injury and I don't see why that guy wouldn't play. It makes more sense to leave Ofa (since they have Nepo Laulala in the 32), but I'd rather see Lomax on the bench than O'Neill - so that suggest leaving big Karl.
I reckon they'll leave one of the top 3 locks as well - and Hansen dropped a hint that it will be BBBR.
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I'd assume that both Hall and Drummond will get a run with TTT getting a run against the Aussies next time out and then more gametime in Europe otherwise I don't see the point in taking both the Crusaders halfbcks.
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I'd assume that both Hall and Drummond will get a run with TTT getting a run against the Aussies next time out and then more gametime in Europe otherwise I don't see the point in taking both the Crusaders halfbcks.
@african-monkey You need a third halfback in case one goes down in the warm-ups.
I reckon it will be TTT starting and one of Hall or Drummond on the bench.
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@chris-b I think 10 of the main squad will stay in Japan after the Aus game with the newbie-19, with the 10 then following after the Japanese test and the newbie-19 either go home or join up with the Maori.
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b I think 10 of the main squad will stay in Japan after the Aus game with the newbie-19, with the 10 then following after the Japanese test and the newbie-19 either go home or join up with the Maori.
So 22, rather than a matchday 23 go early to England? Strange number.
In that case, I'd keep the 10.
But, maybe not ..... we do need to actually blood a 4th 10 before the world cup. Hmmmmmm.
Edit. Scratch this musing. I see McKendry agrees with my original hypothesis.
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Watching The Breakdown.
Has their researcher added and inch or 2 to Dalton Papalii's height? Panel going on about him as 1.97 PSDT style lock/blindside. He's actually shorter than Kaino, Fafita, Frizzell (two of whom are a actually locks/6s) .
But then some panelists talking about him as the (more accurate) 7/6 hybrid, a new breed etc.
That was a confusing segment
