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AB EOYT 2018

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    And what about Reuben O'Neill ?
    He is the biggest surprise in this selection, shared with Cameron's.
    Next year, when the likes of Hames, Moli, Fidow and even Ross are back, I guess he won't be on the radar again.
    However, I think he's had a pretty solid M10 Cup this year, playing soundly on both sides of the scrum. Being selected at the expense of JTA is a real shock though.

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      @broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:

      What’s the word on the street NZZP?

      Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.

      You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori

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      @nzzp. Like the Maori tour while show his goods under a pressure situation. Super rugby would be better competition. Anyway I’m over it. Hopefully the English and Irish can muster a pack to test our mettle.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

        CF snr says that was the way back in the day. You found out you had made or been dropped in real time

        Making the squad - yes, but when you drop someone, you front up and talk to them. Don't be all John Mitchell on Cully 'he's got my number'. That shit riles players, and internet commentators called NZZP who talk about themselves in the third person.

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        @nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:

          What’s the word on the street NZZP?

          Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.

          You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori

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          @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

          @broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:

          What’s the word on the street NZZP?

          Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.

          You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori

          Two for Akira wasn’t it?

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            @nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.

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            @act-crusader said in AB EOYT 2018:

            @nzzp all you gen y princesses need to toughen up.

            Surely there's some tenuous link to the crusaders that has him pencilled into a starting line-up?

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

              @broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:

              What’s the word on the street NZZP?

              Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.

              You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori

              Two for Akira wasn’t it?

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              @kirwan said in AB EOYT 2018:

              @nzzp said in AB EOYT 2018:

              @broughie said in AB EOYT 2018:

              What’s the word on the street NZZP?

              Honestly, I haven't been in Auckland since the squad was named. Much head shaking I expect.

              You have to think that the cartel have him close, and are murmuring sweet nothigns in his hear. He did just cop a 4 year deal with his brother, so maybe there's light down the tunnel. Better bloody hope sothough - either that, or they are brutally honest about what is needed to undo the coaching damage at the Blues, and want to see it on the paddock for the Maori

              Two for Akira wasn’t it?

              Three by the look

              https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/366949/ioane-brothers-sign-long-term-deals-with-new-zealand-rugby

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              • BonesB Bones

                @mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.

                More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.

                Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.

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                @bones said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:

                @stargazer guess the problem is, when you get a bunch of different posters jumping on at varying times of the day, not reading right back through the entire thread and wanting to have thier 2c worth say on the matter, you will get multiple posts on the topic, but my 2c are no more valid than anyone elses (except @MN5 that guy is stuck in the late 90's when it comes to rugby) so you will always get repetition on a forum.

                More 2000s than 90s when it comes to Rugby. 90s when it comes to music though.

                Every era when it comes to men's biceps. Drool.

                Absolutely. That Bok lock who looks like Bruno is my favourite player of all time. What a hunk....um I mean good player.....

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team! 🙂

                  Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.

                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                  Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                  Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                  Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

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                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  @taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team! 🙂

                  Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.

                  @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                  Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                  Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                  Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                  Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

                  who would captain that side - Coles?

                  out of respect for Japan would be good to see a couple of bigger names in there - Sonny Bill for instance. Throw a couple of rookies into the Bledisloe game.

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                    Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12143287

                    Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3 
                    
                    15. Jordie Barrett
                    14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
                    13. Anton Lienert-Brown
                    12. Ngani Laumape
                    11. George Bridge 
                    10. Damian McKenzie
                    9. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi 
                    8. Luke Whitelock
                    7. Dalton Papalii 
                    6. Jackson Hemopo
                    5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                    4. Luke Romano
                    3. Angus Ta'avao 
                    2. Dane Coles
                    1. Tim Perry
                    
                    Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.
                    
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                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @taniwharugby Yep - I already picked my team! 🙂

                      Though Hansen hinted that BBBR mightn't be fit for Oz, but should be for Japan - so, I reckon he takes Scott Barrett's place and probably pushes a starting lock (Romano) to the bench.

                      @chris-b said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      Looking at the balance of this side, I reckon the team to play japan will be pretty close to.

                      Tu'inukuafe, Coles, Ta'avao, Romano, Tuipolotu, Hemopo, Papali'i, Whitelock, TTT, Mo'unga, Bridge, Laumape, Lienert-Brown, NMS, JBarrett

                      Res. Perry, Coltman, Lomax, SBarrett, Evans, Hall, McKenzie, Proctor

                      Back ups in case of last minute injury: Aumua, O'Neill, Hunt, Drummond, Cameron, Havili

                      who would captain that side - Coles?

                      out of respect for Japan would be good to see a couple of bigger names in there - Sonny Bill for instance. Throw a couple of rookies into the Bledisloe game.

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                      @nevorian Possibly Coles, but probably Luke Whitelock IMO. He's been an AB captain before.

                      I think that selection is all about getting past Japan, but ensuring we are ready to go against England.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12143287

                        Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3 
                        
                        15. Jordie Barrett
                        14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
                        13. Anton Lienert-Brown
                        12. Ngani Laumape
                        11. George Bridge 
                        10. Damian McKenzie
                        9. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi 
                        8. Luke Whitelock
                        7. Dalton Papalii 
                        6. Jackson Hemopo
                        5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                        4. Luke Romano
                        3. Angus Ta'avao 
                        2. Dane Coles
                        1. Tim Perry
                        
                        Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.
                        
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                        @kiwimurph I can't really see them going into a test match with Jordie as the back-up 10 - but, that's what McKendry is suggesting. At a minimum, I reckon Cameron on the bench - but, won't surprise me if they leave both McKenzie and Mo'unga in Japan.

                        They're going to need to leave one of Ofa or Big Karl in Tokyo to cover both sides of the scrum in case of a late injury and I don't see why that guy wouldn't play. It makes more sense to leave Ofa (since they have Nepo Laulala in the 32), but I'd rather see Lomax on the bench than O'Neill - so that suggest leaving big Karl.

                        I reckon they'll leave one of the top 3 locks as well - and Hansen dropped a hint that it will be BBBR.

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                          I'd assume that both Hall and Drummond will get a run with TTT getting a run against the Aussies next time out and then more gametime in Europe otherwise I don't see the point in taking both the Crusaders halfbcks.

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                            I'd assume that both Hall and Drummond will get a run with TTT getting a run against the Aussies next time out and then more gametime in Europe otherwise I don't see the point in taking both the Crusaders halfbcks.

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                            @african-monkey You need a third halfback in case one goes down in the warm-ups.

                            I reckon it will be TTT starting and one of Hall or Drummond on the bench.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @chris-b I think 10 of the main squad will stay in Japan after the Aus game with the newbie-19, with the 10 then following after the Japanese test and the newbie-19 either go home or join up with the Maori.

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                              @taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:

                              @chris-b I think 10 of the main squad will stay in Japan after the Aus game with the newbie-19, with the 10 then following after the Japanese test and the newbie-19 either go home or join up with the Maori.

                              So 22, rather than a matchday 23 go early to England? Strange number.

                              In that case, I'd keep the 10.

                              But, maybe not ..... we do need to actually blood a 4th 10 before the world cup. Hmmmmmm.

                              Edit. Scratch this musing. I see McKendry agrees with my original hypothesis.

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                                Watching The Breakdown.

                                Has their researcher added and inch or 2 to Dalton Papalii's height? Panel going on about him as 1.97 PSDT style lock/blindside. He's actually shorter than Kaino, Fafita, Frizzell (two of whom are a actually locks/6s) .

                                But then some panelists talking about him as the (more accurate) 7/6 hybrid, a new breed etc.

                                That was a confusing segment

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  Here's a new one for you:

                                  Jordie Barrett, what the fuck has he done this year?

                                  ooooh good

                                  3/8s of fuck all really. Cost us a test.

                                  And as far as i can see from the Fern, has gone from being the ABs nailed on fullback for the next 10 years (except for the loons who think he's a 12) to being overtaken by some bloke called Jordan in 18 months.

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                                  @mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                  Here's a new one for you:

                                  Jordie Barrett, what the fuck has he done this year?

                                  ooooh good

                                  3/8s of fuck all really. Cost us a test.

                                  And as far as i can see from the Fern, has gone from being the ABs nailed on fullback for the next 10 years (except for the loons who think he's a 12) to being overtaken by some bloke called Jordan in 18 months.

                                  I really hope you choke on that dildo some day. I hope you choke on it and the final thing you see is the Barrett brothers starting an AB test together while your little blonde NZ Schweinsteiger watches from the stands.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    Here's a new one for you:

                                    Jordie Barrett, what the fuck has he done this year?

                                    Threw that cracker pass to the Boks that half the Fern tried to blame an Ioane for?

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                                    @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    Here's a new one for you:

                                    Jordie Barrett, what the fuck has he done this year?

                                    Threw that cracker pass to the Boks that half the Fern tried to blame an Ioane for?

                                    Writing "an Ioane" suggests that the other one actually ever gets picked. You wouldn't write "a McKenzie" would you?

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @african-monkey You need a third halfback in case one goes down in the warm-ups.

                                      I reckon it will be TTT starting and one of Hall or Drummond on the bench.

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                                      @chris-b They could always just leave Smith or Perenara there then to save an airfare
                                      🙂

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12143287

                                        Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3 
                                        
                                        15. Jordie Barrett
                                        14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                        13. Anton Lienert-Brown
                                        12. Ngani Laumape
                                        11. George Bridge 
                                        10. Damian McKenzie
                                        9. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi 
                                        8. Luke Whitelock
                                        7. Dalton Papalii 
                                        6. Jackson Hemopo
                                        5. Patrick Tuipulotu
                                        4. Luke Romano
                                        3. Angus Ta'avao 
                                        2. Dane Coles
                                        1. Tim Perry
                                        
                                        Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.
                                        
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                                        @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test
                                        Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3

                                        1. Jordie Barrett
                                        2. Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                        3. Anton Lienert-Brown
                                        4. Ngani Laumape
                                        5. George Bridge
                                        6. Damian McKenzie
                                        7. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi
                                        8. Luke Whitelock
                                        9. Dalton Papalii
                                        10. Jackson Hemopo
                                        11. Patrick Tuipulotu
                                        12. Luke Romano
                                        13. Angus Ta'avao
                                        14. Dane Coles
                                        15. Tim Perry

                                        Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.

                                        Is Japan playing a reduced strength side? Because otherwise I would not be surprised if that team got smoked by them.

                                        It's not that any player there isn't deserving, but the team as a whole looks like a mid-ranked Super side (hardly surprising given that almost two entire teams of players are selected above them).

                                        A forward pack with hardly any grunt go-forward, including guys just back from long injuries and complete noobs. It's unbalanced towards defensive players and grinders.

                                        Inside backs that look solid enough, but wingers that aren't really going to break the game open.

                                        Where are they going to make breaks? McKenzie needs to stop trying to win games by himself, so shouldn't be expected to make everything happen. Barrett Jr and Laumape better bring their A games -- it's lucky that both have been in such outstanding form recently and won't have to shake off any rust (uggh!).

                                        But if the game is going badly, we'll at least be able to roll some experienced and reliable game breakers off the bench. Not.

                                        If Japan play their #1 side against that lot, then I'm off to the TAB.

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                                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                          @kiwimurph said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                          Sorry if already posted but this is McKendry's 23 for the Japan test
                                          Possible All Blacks team for test against Japan in Tokyo on November 3

                                          1. Jordie Barrett
                                          2. Nehe Milner-Skudder
                                          3. Anton Lienert-Brown
                                          4. Ngani Laumape
                                          5. George Bridge
                                          6. Damian McKenzie
                                          7. Te Toiroa Tahuroirangi
                                          8. Luke Whitelock
                                          9. Dalton Papalii
                                          10. Jackson Hemopo
                                          11. Patrick Tuipulotu
                                          12. Luke Romano
                                          13. Angus Ta'avao
                                          14. Dane Coles
                                          15. Tim Perry

                                          Reserves: Liam Coltman, Tyrel Lomax, Reuben O'Neill, Gareth Evans, Dillon Hunt, Mitchell Drummond, Matt Proctor, David Havili.

                                          Is Japan playing a reduced strength side? Because otherwise I would not be surprised if that team got smoked by them.

                                          It's not that any player there isn't deserving, but the team as a whole looks like a mid-ranked Super side (hardly surprising given that almost two entire teams of players are selected above them).

                                          A forward pack with hardly any grunt go-forward, including guys just back from long injuries and complete noobs. It's unbalanced towards defensive players and grinders.

                                          Inside backs that look solid enough, but wingers that aren't really going to break the game open.

                                          Where are they going to make breaks? McKenzie needs to stop trying to win games by himself, so shouldn't be expected to make everything happen. Barrett Jr and Laumape better bring their A games -- it's lucky that both have been in such outstanding form recently and won't have to shake off any rust (uggh!).

                                          But if the game is going badly, we'll at least be able to roll some experienced and reliable game breakers off the bench. Not.

                                          If Japan play their #1 side against that lot, then I'm off to the TAB.

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                                          @chester-draws is that one of those “I don’t watch a lot of rugby but I’ll post anyway” posts?

                                          Not that I think that will be the side, but if it is, that 4,5,6,7 will provide plenty of go forward if they all play their natural games. We’ll get punch from the midfield and Skudder and Jordie know how to work together in attack.

                                          Front row a little concerning.

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