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AB EOYT 2018

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  • BonesB Bones

    @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @nepia said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @african-monkey said in AB EOYT 2018:

    @tim Wouldn't mind if they blooded someone else but doesn't look like they will. Walker-Leauwere or Strange is someone I'd think of taking.

    If it was just a fill in to hang around with the squad for a week in Japan I'd assume they'd take Strange rather than grab one of the Maori locks? Isn't Hemopo in Japan? He probably provides enough cover.

    Yeah true, forgot about Hemopo. Wouldn't suprise me if this is Hemopo's last test in the black Jersey along with a few others.

    It would be pretty surprising to me, and probably to the selectors also I'd say. Is he leaving rugby?

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    @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

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    • TimT Tim

      @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

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      @tim said in AB EOYT 2018:

      @bones Got a part in the next season of Narcos. Pretty good at rolling his r's.

      More Maori taking the roles that should go to Hispanics and Arabs.

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        Dane Coles pulls out of captaincy race for Japan test

        Returning hooker Dane Coles has withdrawn himself from consideration for the All Blacks captaincy against Japan this weekend.
        
        Coles' experience among a team that will be composed of promising provincial rookies had him earmarked as a frontrunner for the role in Yokohama.
        
        But after a lengthy injury-enforced hiatus from the international fold, Coles said he wasn't interested in the additional pressure and responsibilities that come along with being skipper of the All Blacks.
        
        "Just because of the year I've had, I've got to be little bit selfish here and it's probably not the best thing for me to do," Coles said.
        
        "Whoever that is, I'll support him. I've still got a lead role, if I play, in this team to help.
        
        That will likely see the captain's armband worn by Highlanders forward, Luke Whitelock.
        

        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/10/all-blacks-dane-coles-pulls-out-of-captaincy-race-for-japan-test.html

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        • sparkyS sparky

          The rise and rise of Codie Taylor continues. Another strong performance in Yokohama. I expect him to be first-choice All Blacks Holoker through to RWC 2019 and beyond.

          Harris, Coles, Aumua and Coltman are in competition to be the bench or backup option.

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          #753

          @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

          If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

            If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

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            @canes4life Harris and Coltman are strong scrummagers, not so sure about Aumua.

            All three of those hookers have problems with lineout throwing. Kind of important for a hooker.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @canes4life Harris and Coltman are strong scrummagers, not so sure about Aumua.

              All three of those hookers have problems with lineout throwing. Kind of important for a hooker.

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              @bovidae Yeah but Aumua who is in his development phase of his career is already on par with Coltman and Harris, so can only see him getting better within the next year. He could be a real weapon for the All Blacks off the bench come World Cup if he can get back to peak fitness. However if Taylor & Coles stay fit they are pretty much a lock for our top 23.

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                imagine the added bonus Coles will bring to the squad if he can get back to his best ,

                He has been out for so long and they have learnt to play without him ,

                to come in now will be like the discovery of a new gun player

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                  Is a big ask tho, to come back after that long out. Doesn't happen often, someone coming back to full prowess after that much injury time. I just can't see it, and imagine Coles not being up there for the rwc squad. Would love to be proven wrong tho

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    imagine the added bonus Coles will bring to the squad if he can get back to his best ,

                    He has been out for so long and they have learnt to play without him ,

                    to come in now will be like the discovery of a new gun player

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in AB EOYT 2018:

                    imagine the added bonus Coles will bring to the squad if he can get back to his best ,

                    He has been out for so long and they have learnt to play without him ,

                    to come in now will be like the discovery of a new gun player

                    He'd make a damn good super sub

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @kiwiinmelb said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      imagine the added bonus Coles will bring to the squad if he can get back to his best ,

                      He has been out for so long and they have learnt to play without him ,

                      to come in now will be like the discovery of a new gun player

                      He'd make a damn good super sub

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                      @canefan said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      @kiwiinmelb said in AB EOYT 2018:

                      imagine the added bonus Coles will bring to the squad if he can get back to his best ,

                      He has been out for so long and they have learnt to play without him ,

                      to come in now will be like the discovery of a new gun player

                      He'd make a damn good super sub

                      Taylor - Coles 1 -2 punch

                      Would probably be better than Hore - Mealamu , and that was a bloody good one

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

                        If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

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                        @canes4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                        @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

                        If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

                        No way (barring a run of injuries) will that happen.
                        Way too early for Aumua. 2023 will be his aim.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @canes4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                          @sparky Well you can count Harris and Coltman out. They provide no impact whatsoever.

                          If Aumua can have a big year the Hookers will be Taylor, Coles & Aumua.

                          No way (barring a run of injuries) will that happen.
                          Way too early for Aumua. 2023 will be his aim.

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                          #761

                          @crucial So you're saying Harris will be there. What does he actually offer?

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @crucial So you're saying Harris will be there. What does he actually offer?

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                            #762

                            @canes4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                            @crucial So you're saying Harris will be there. What does he actually offer?

                            He's good on the wing.

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                              #763

                              Well that was an unfun little jaunt through Europe, for the most part.

                              Hardly inspiring performances and more questions posed than answered. So I'm not going to bother cluttering up my wee brain with what the hell we're up to and why our rugby was so vanilla this year, and less successful than previous, (worst defence by us for 18 years, let in 19 per game apparently).

                              It's cricket season, and I'll never know for sure what the ABs have up the sleeve tactically so as I drifted off to sleep, beginning my 6 months All Blacks hibernation, a vision came to me in form of a dream that settled my bothered wee mind.

                              It was a vivid dream:

                              The date was November 6 2018, the venue was a suite at a nice hotel in London. In the room were Shag and Fozzie and all the AB backs:

                              (Shag talks then the backs talk)

                              G'day lads, last meeting about tactics this tour and a chance for all you fullas to ask questions about our backline strategies so you all understand them. Ok? Fozzie pass me a donut mate

                              Hey boss what do we do with the first attacking ruck ball we get?

                              Kick it

                              What about the next two phases?

                              Kick it

                              First possession in second half?

                              Kick it

                              I make a break, beat the line, but my winger is still half marked?

                              Kick it

                              A quick tap penalty, I make 20 yards but I nearly run out of support?

                              Kick it

                              Weve got an overlap through the hands in their 22?

                              Kick it

                              A forward, say a hooker, makes a break and has a winger outside?

                              Kick it

                              It's raining and the last 3 kicks have slid too far, what do I do next possession?

                              Kick it

                              We've been chasing the game all day, what to we do for the first 70 minutes?

                              Kick it

                              I got the ball static cos we had no pick and go to suck in defenders, I'm behind the gainline again what do I do?

                              Kick it

                              The front left tyre on my rainbow painted Ford Explorer might be a bit flat, how can I tell

                              Kick it

                              (whispered by another back - yeah my "All men's behaviour must change, Black Lives Matter, I decide my own gender thank you very much, end toxic masculinity" Ranger has a slightly flat tyre too)

                              Right. No more questions? Everything very very clear for the next 3 weeks?

                              Good.

                              Now let"s finish up with the tour song. Fozzie put on my Devo cassette tape from when I could fit into an airline economy seat and fast forward it to the good bit

                              Everybody...!

                              *When a problem comes along
                              You must Kick it
                              Before the cream sits out too long
                              You must Kick it
                              When something's going wrong
                              You must Kick it

                              Now Kick it
                              Into shape
                              Shape it up
                              Get straight
                              Go forward
                              Move ahead
                              Try to detect it
                              It's not too late
                              To Kick it
                              Kick it good*

                              I love this song Fozzie
                              Me too boss....you finished with that donut?

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                Well that was an unfun little jaunt through Europe, for the most part.

                                Hardly inspiring performances and more questions posed than answered. So I'm not going to bother cluttering up my wee brain with what the hell we're up to and why our rugby was so vanilla this year, and less successful than previous, (worst defence by us for 18 years, let in 19 per game apparently).

                                It's cricket season, and I'll never know for sure what the ABs have up the sleeve tactically so as I drifted off to sleep, beginning my 6 months All Blacks hibernation, a vision came to me in form of a dream that settled my bothered wee mind.

                                It was a vivid dream:

                                The date was November 6 2018, the venue was a suite at a nice hotel in London. In the room were Shag and Fozzie and all the AB backs:

                                (Shag talks then the backs talk)

                                G'day lads, last meeting about tactics this tour and a chance for all you fullas to ask questions about our backline strategies so you all understand them. Ok? Fozzie pass me a donut mate

                                Hey boss what do we do with the first attacking ruck ball we get?

                                Kick it

                                What about the next two phases?

                                Kick it

                                First possession in second half?

                                Kick it

                                I make a break, beat the line, but my winger is still half marked?

                                Kick it

                                A quick tap penalty, I make 20 yards but I nearly run out of support?

                                Kick it

                                Weve got an overlap through the hands in their 22?

                                Kick it

                                A forward, say a hooker, makes a break and has a winger outside?

                                Kick it

                                It's raining and the last 3 kicks have slid too far, what do I do next possession?

                                Kick it

                                We've been chasing the game all day, what to we do for the first 70 minutes?

                                Kick it

                                I got the ball static cos we had no pick and go to suck in defenders, I'm behind the gainline again what do I do?

                                Kick it

                                The front left tyre on my rainbow painted Ford Explorer might be a bit flat, how can I tell

                                Kick it

                                (whispered by another back - yeah my "All men's behaviour must change, Black Lives Matter, I decide my own gender thank you very much, end toxic masculinity" Ranger has a slightly flat tyre too)

                                Right. No more questions? Everything very very clear for the next 3 weeks?

                                Good.

                                Now let"s finish up with the tour song. Fozzie put on my Devo cassette tape from when I could fit into an airline economy seat and fast forward it to the good bit

                                Everybody...!

                                *When a problem comes along
                                You must Kick it
                                Before the cream sits out too long
                                You must Kick it
                                When something's going wrong
                                You must Kick it

                                Now Kick it
                                Into shape
                                Shape it up
                                Get straight
                                Go forward
                                Move ahead
                                Try to detect it
                                It's not too late
                                To Kick it
                                Kick it good*

                                I love this song Fozzie
                                Me too boss....you finished with that donut?

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                                @siam said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                Well that was an unfun little jaunt through Europe, for the most part.

                                Hardly inspiring performances and more questions posed than answered. So I'm not going to bother cluttering up my wee brain with what the hell we're up to and why our rugby was so vanilla this year, and less successful than previous, (worst defence by us for 18 years, let in 19 per game apparently).

                                It's cricket season, and I'll never know for sure what the ABs have up the sleeve tactically so as I drifted off to sleep, beginning my 6 months All Blacks hibernation, a vision came to me in form of a dream that settled my bothered wee mind.

                                It was a vivid dream:

                                The date was November 6 2018, the venue was a suite at a nice hotel in London. In the room were Shag and Fozzie and all the AB backs:

                                (Shag talks then the backs talk)

                                G'day lads, last meeting about tactics this tour and a chance for all you fullas to ask questions about our backline strategies so you all understand them. Ok? Fozzie pass me a donut mate

                                Hey boss what do we do with the first attacking ruck ball we get?

                                Kick it

                                What about the next two phases?

                                Kick it

                                First possession in second half?

                                Kick it

                                I make a break, beat the line, but my winger is still half marked?

                                Kick it

                                A quick tap penalty, I make 20 yards but I nearly run out of support?

                                Kick it

                                Weve got an overlap through the hands in their 22?

                                Kick it

                                A forward, say a hooker, makes a break and has a winger outside?

                                Kick it

                                It's raining and the last 3 kicks have slid too far, what do I do next possession?

                                Kick it

                                We've been chasing the game all day, what to we do for the first 70 minutes?

                                Kick it

                                I got the ball static cos we had no pick and go to suck in defenders, I'm behind the gainline again what do I do?

                                Kick it

                                The front left tyre on my rainbow painted Ford Explorer might be a bit flat, how can I tell

                                Kick it

                                (whispered by another back - yeah my "All men's behaviour must change, Black Lives Matter, I decide my own gender thank you very much, end toxic masculinity" Ranger has a slightly flat tyre too)

                                Right. No more questions? Everything very very clear for the next 3 weeks?

                                Good.

                                Now let"s finish up with the tour song. Fozzie put on my Devo cassette tape from when I could fit into an airline economy seat and fast forward it to the good bit

                                Everybody...!

                                *When a problem comes along
                                You must Kick it
                                Before the cream sits out too long
                                You must Kick it
                                When something's going wrong
                                You must Kick it

                                Now Kick it
                                Into shape
                                Shape it up
                                Get straight
                                Go forward
                                Move ahead
                                Try to detect it
                                It's not too late
                                To Kick it
                                Kick it good*

                                I love this song Fozzie
                                Me too boss....you finished with that donut?

                                Hahaha. #fatcunts

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                                  Positives for the tour? Coles back running, a bit more depth created, players learned what shitfight test feels like, and how to deal with adversity. Our set piece is still good, and we don't give up many points.

                                  The negatives have been done to death

                                  Big winner of the tour i am naming DMac. Reckon he has converted most to his value now, and can go home happy with his personal work.

                                  Heaps of sliders.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    Positives for the tour? Coles back running, a bit more depth created, players learned what shitfight test feels like, and how to deal with adversity. Our set piece is still good, and we don't give up many points.

                                    The negatives have been done to death

                                    Big winner of the tour i am naming DMac. Reckon he has converted most to his value now, and can go home happy with his personal work.

                                    Heaps of sliders.

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                                    @mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                    Positives for the tour? Coles back running, a bit more depth created, players learned what shitfight test feels like, and how to deal with adversity. Our set piece is still good, and we don't give up many points.

                                    The negatives have been done to death

                                    Big winner of the tour i am naming DMac. Reckon he has converted most to his value now, and can go home happy with his personal work.

                                    Heaps of sliders.

                                    Definitely. Hardly any squeaks in the past few weeks about how he is always on the verge of a calamitous error. Upside v downside etc.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      Positives for the tour? Coles back running, a bit more depth created, players learned what shitfight test feels like, and how to deal with adversity. Our set piece is still good, and we don't give up many points.

                                      The negatives have been done to death

                                      Big winner of the tour i am naming DMac. Reckon he has converted most to his value now, and can go home happy with his personal work.

                                      Heaps of sliders.

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                                      @mariner4life

                                      Not many talking about DMac at 15, so he's definitely gone up.

                                      Mo'unga hasn't done his chances any harm, despite not really achieving much.

                                      Goodhue has quietly become first choice 13, and looked well at home against the Irish.

                                      Papali'i has looked OK, from very limited opportunities, as has Ta'avao, while Ofa has seen some tests at LH, which is quite valuable for next year. Nepo has come back and looks good too.

                                      Plus Coles, who looks on a positive course to be useful, if not world class, again.

                                      Apart from that, Read has been up and down, as has Brodie, while SW looks tired. Even Taylor finished untidily, while Karl finally got a taste against the best in the world, and Owen Franks is looking like a role player - for probably the first time I can remember, I'd pick another TH ahead of him, and possibly even another from our squad.

                                      Midfield still a problem, so that's unresolved, and halfback is suddenly a decision, and not because of lifetime form by TJP. And at six, it's Squire, yikes.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        Positives for the tour? Coles back running, a bit more depth created, players learned what shitfight test feels like, and how to deal with adversity. Our set piece is still good, and we don't give up many points.

                                        The negatives have been done to death

                                        Big winner of the tour i am naming DMac. Reckon he has converted most to his value now, and can go home happy with his personal work.

                                        Heaps of sliders.

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                                        @mariner4life said in AB EOYT 2018:

                                        Positives for the tour?

                                        We’re not Australia.

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