AB EOYT 2018
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@chris-b I think Lock is a bit of an issue too.
Looking beyond 2019, are Barrett (24) or Pat (25) genuine options to take over if/when SW (29) or BBBR (27) head off shore or age starts taking it's toll?
I think they need to bring in some f the younger guys now, we have seen the effects having no BBBR and/or Whitelock makes to our game.
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b I think Lock is a bit of an issue too.
Looking beyond 2019, are Barrett (24) or Pat (25) genuine options to take over if/when SW (29) or BBBR (27) head off shore or age starts taking it's toll?
I think they need to bring in some f the younger guys now, we have seen the effects having no BBBR and/or Whitelock makes to our game.
I guess it depends on whether they're looking beyond RWC with this squad - or not. At lock, we're not really going to do any better than what we have before RWC, so:
Retallick, Whitelock, Barrett, Tuipolotu, Romano, Franklin - we've got a reasonable amount of depth - just there's a big gap between the top two and the rest that we're not going to solve by calling in new guys.
I like the look of Parkinson in terms of physique. He's got height that not many others have. Strange has been going pretty well in M10 Cup as well though.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
@chris-b I think Lock is a bit of an issue too.
Looking beyond 2019, are Barrett (24) or Pat (25) genuine options to take over if/when SW (29) or BBBR (27) head off shore or age starts taking it's toll?
I think they need to bring in some f the younger guys now, we have seen the effects having no BBBR and/or Whitelock makes to our game.
I guess it depends on whether they're looking beyond RWC with this squad - or not. At lock, we're not really going to do any better than what we have before RWC, so:
Retallick, Whitelock, Barrett, Tuipolotu, Romano, Franklin - we've got a reasonable amount of depth - just there's a big gap between the top two and the rest that we're not going to solve by calling in new guys.
I like the look of Parkinson in terms of physique. He's got height that not many others have. Strange has been going pretty well in M10 Cup as well though.
@chris-b I think in this 51 man squad, surely this is a look beyond 2019?
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@chris-b I think in this 51 man squad, surely this is a look beyond 2019?
@taniwharugby To be honest, I'm not sure what it (mainly) is.
a. A look beyond 2019?
b. A "you are the guys who are in the RWC frame"? Or
c. We don't want the 23 players who will play against England playing against Japan and we need 19 additional guys to make up the squad and provide adequate cover for training ground injuries?
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@taniwharugby To be honest, I'm not sure what it (mainly) is.
a. A look beyond 2019?
b. A "you are the guys who are in the RWC frame"? Or
c. We don't want the 23 players who will play against England playing against Japan and we need 19 additional guys to make up the squad and provide adequate cover for training ground injuries?
@chris-b be hugely surprised if more than 1 or 2 players outside the current group are in consideration for the RWC (barring Injury)
So my take is that it is looking beyond 2019.
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@chris-b be hugely surprised if more than 1 or 2 players outside the current group are in consideration for the RWC (barring Injury)
So my take is that it is looking beyond 2019.
@taniwharugby Injury is likely to be a thing, though.
Certainly it's inescapable that there will be a bit of a look to the future - though the question is why this year.
The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think that maybe it will mainly be c. The extra guys they take will tell the story - two spare props, a hooker, halfback and first five - plus one.
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@taniwharugby Injury is likely to be a thing, though.
Certainly it's inescapable that there will be a bit of a look to the future - though the question is why this year.
The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think that maybe it will mainly be c. The extra guys they take will tell the story - two spare props, a hooker, halfback and first five - plus one.
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@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
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@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
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@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
Look at the hipster from Wellington shouting about fashion choices on a rugby thread.
I'm picturing a big beard and tight jeans.
You probably do pilates too aye.
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@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
Look at the hipster from Wellington shouting about fashion choices on a rugby thread.
I'm picturing a big beard and tight jeans.
You probably do pilates too aye.
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
Look at the hipster from Wellington shouting about fashion choices on a rugby thread.
I'm picturing a big beard and tight jeans.
You probably do pilates too aye.
Don't forget craft beers and vaping.
In my defence none of my sexual partners have been relatives though so that's something.
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@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@mn5 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@sammyc said in AB EOYT 2018:
@akan004 said in AB EOYT 2018:
@cgrant Agree with Pari Pari Parkinson, he looks really promising. Don't get the hype about Strange, Parkinson has been a lot more impressive imo.
Strange had a very impressive super season. Apparently the Crusaders coaches are convinced he’ll be a long term All Black.
Parkinson has had a great NPC, agree with you on this one.
They probably said the same about Sam Broomball as well
Most of us have moved on from 2002.
Really ? I've been to chch recently. The mullets and moleskins would indicate this is not true
Look at the hipster from Wellington shouting about fashion choices on a rugby thread.
I'm picturing a big beard and tight jeans.
You probably do pilates too aye.
@sammyc 2/3 bro....haha
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apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
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apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
Panasonic offered to have a release clause in Todd's contract but NZR declined. Seems stupid to be back-tracking now whatever the circumstances.
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@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
Panasonic offered to have a release clause in Todd's contract but NZR declined. Seems stupid to be back-tracking now whatever the circumstances.
@bovidae I agree, also sends a rubbish message to the likes of Hunt.
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apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
@taniwharugby said in AB EOYT 2018:
apparently NZR are negotiating with Matt Todd's Japanese team about release for all or part of the EOYT (just heard on the wireless)
WiFi?
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I think that once Todd made the decision to go, and according to newspaper reports he made a financial decision to do so, then we should be looking elsewhere for this tour as it will give us a chance to build depth. He's been around enough to just be able to slot back in next year.
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@crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:
On another EOYT matter, just had a look at tickets for Rome and there are still plenty available.
If airfares and accom aren't too pricy this could be a weekender.Ooooh, very tempting. I went a couple of years ago and it was excellent. Porchetta sandwiches outside the stadium! Other half wasn't too impressed with them not serving wine though.
@bones said in AB EOYT 2018:
@crucial said in AB EOYT 2018:
On another EOYT matter, just had a look at tickets for Rome and there are still plenty available.
If airfares and accom aren't too pricy this could be a weekender.Ooooh, very tempting. I went a couple of years ago and it was excellent. Porchetta sandwiches outside the stadium! Other half wasn't too impressed with them not serving wine though.
Food and drink delivered to your seat is also hell awesome. Great place to watch and the Italian fans are awesome.
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Sparky's 51 with ages and number of All Blacks Tests.
Tim Perry (30-5)
Joe Moody (30-36)
Karl Tu'inukuafe (25-9)
Owen Franks (30-103)
Nepo Laulala (26-13)
Ofa Tu'ungafasi (26-22)
Jeffery Toomaga-Allen (27-1)Dane Coles (31-56)
Codie Taylor (27-38)
Nathan Harris (26-18)
Liam Coltman (28-3)Luke Romano (32-31)
Sam Whitelock (29-105)
Brodie Retallick (27 -71)
Scott Barrett (24-25)
Patrick Tuipulotu (25-19)
Quentin Strange (22-0)Liam Squire (27-21)
Shannon Frizell (24-4)
Ardie Savea (24-31)
Dillon Hunt (23-0)
Vaea Fifita (26-7)
Jackson Hemopo (24-2)
Dalton Papali'i (20-0)
Luke Whitelock (27-6)
Kieron Read (32-114)
Akira Ioane (23-0)Aaron Smith (29-79)
TJ Perenera (26-31)
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (23-1)
Brad Weber (27-1)Beauden Barrett (27-69)
Richie Mo'unga (24-4)
Damien McKenzie (23-19)
Mitchell Hunt (23-0)Ngani Laumape (25-8)
Ryan Crotty (30-40)
Anton Leinert-Brown (23-30)
Jack Goodhue (23-5)
Matt Proctor (25-0)
Sonny Bill Williams (33-49)
Ma'a Nonu (36-103)Reiko Ioane (21-20)
Waisake Naholo (27-24)
Ben Smith (32-73)
Jordie Barrett (21-7)
David Havili (23-5)
Nehe Milner Skudder (27-12)
Vince Aso (23-0)
George Bridge (23-0)
Will Jordan (20-0) -
Replace Jordan with Lam (Jordan too young for the wise men), and Nonu with A N Other and I reckon you're right. Be great for Nonu to make a come back, great story, but he's been grinding boring shite in France for too long now - unless he's one of the non playing 6 just in casers.
