Exodus
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@muddyriver said in Exodus:
I think professional comp alongside club comp works. It like the feeder clubs in rugby league. Everyone is game ready.
Atm guys who aren't playing npc have nothing to get them game ready underneath it. Guys coming up and down into club teams would really add buy in rural cities. I know it happens alot in the super towns.
It streamlines everything imo.
Not sure I understand you correctly, but parallel to the NPC, there are development team, age grade and other representative competitions. NPC players who aren't in the match day 23, and players on the NPC fringes, will play for teams taking part in those competitions.
@Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.
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@mariner4life said in Exodus:
inbound tours and RC as such wouldn't it.
no, just a re-think
The november tours and 6-nations exist up north and their season is like 11 months long
Yep , needs complete global season change more than a rethink. WR has test windows set. But I think we need to shorten season length as ours is basically as long , from Feb to to beginning of Dec, too long. I would like it if we started in March and finished Oct/early Nov. We hammering (and by we I mean rugby in general) miles too much.
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@Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.
@muddyriver said in Exodus:
@Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.
Only unorganised rubbish for you maybe muddy, but very important to development of our younger players etc. I know the Naki development (B) team plays through to Oct, same as U20s etc, who have quite a good set comp, first in Chiefs area , then qualifiers play winners from other super areas.
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@Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.
@muddyriver I think this years programme for the Northland dev side, but more so some of the age grade stuff was the best they have had for years, but still too inconsistent and lack of variety of opposition to get real value...hopefully they can keep working on this.
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@muddyriver said in Exodus:
@Stargazer they last for 4 weeks of the season these days. And it's unorganized rubbish rugby for the most part.
Only unorganised rubbish for you maybe muddy, but very important to development of our younger players etc. I know the Naki development (B) team plays through to Oct, same as U20s etc, who have quite a good set comp, first in Chiefs area , then qualifiers play winners from other super areas.
@Dan54 Yep, in the Hurricanes region also a lot of work has been/is being done in that respect, although - thus far - it has resulted in a better programme for the Wellington teams (due to their much bigger numbers and - probably - closer proximity) than for the other provinces in the region, but as @taniwharugby says, if they continue to work on the programme for both age grade and dev teams, it has the potential of being something really good. It's definitely not "unorganized rubbish".
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@Dan54 Yep, in the Hurricanes region also a lot of work has been/is being done in that respect, although - thus far - it has resulted in a better programme for the Wellington teams (due to their much bigger numbers and - probably - closer proximity) than for the other provinces in the region, but as @taniwharugby says, if they continue to work on the programme for both age grade and dev teams, it has the potential of being something really good. It's definitely not "unorganized rubbish".
@Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.
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@Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.
@taniwharugby said in Exodus:
@Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.
The same really in the Crusaders region it has been ok and worked well for the Crusaders.
But there is a real effort to grow it in the region to be even more meaningful.The Crusaders academy has been running for quite while now and now there are decent structures underneath 70% of new players for the Crusaders come straight out of the Academy every season.
They flow straight in to the academy from all-round the country the Crusaders have had a extremely good scouting group watching school rugby for a while now.
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@taniwharugby said in Exodus:
@Stargazer TBF, I think the programmes up here, have def not been great, but we have a new guy that has returned from Auckland who is certainly trying to get that aspect a bit more organised, and if I recall correctly, @Muddyriver has also had a bit of experience in both Northland and Auckland scenes so not just an off the cuff comment, but probably more specific to his expericnes.
The same really in the Crusaders region it has been ok and worked well for the Crusaders.
But there is a real effort to grow it in the region to be even more meaningful.The Crusaders academy has been running for quite while now and now there are decent structures underneath 70% of new players for the Crusaders come straight out of the Academy every season.
They flow straight in to the academy from all-round the country the Crusaders have had a extremely good scouting group watching school rugby for a while now.
And we are starting to see that at all the SR franchises.@Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.
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@Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.
@Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.
Yep Campbell Parata
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@Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.
Yep Campbell Parata
@Chris Yep Chris they got a good scouting group, a No 10 from Southport School a team I watched a few years back came over to Crusaders Academy, had a few games for Ta$man, though last I heard he was signed by the Force, his parents live over there, and rumours coming through from Qld he was missing them a fair bit.
Yep Campbell Parata
Yep, and you know when I replied I couldn't remember his name-------bloody old age huh!
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Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.
https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746
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Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.
https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746
@Stargazer Who?
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I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.
Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
This announcement is from October. -
Never heard of him. Hasn't ever played NPC as far as I know.
https://twitter.com/utwarriorsrugby/status/1606031826933407746
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@Stargazer Plays for Auckland University club. Supposed to be one of the better props around. He's played for the NZ Universities team, and Auckland B.
May have been in an NZ Secondary Schools squad.
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I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.
Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
This announcement is from October.@Stargazer said in Exodus:
I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.
Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
This announcement is from October.Is that his dad's jersey?
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@Stargazer said in Exodus:
I haven't been paying attention to signings in Europe other than in the major competitions, so this one had escaped my attention. The last 10 years or so, there have been quite a few Hawke's Bay players who have played a season (or part of a season) in Spain or Portugal. Often players at the very beginning (ex.: Joe 'Apikotoa) or at the end (ex.: Chris Eaton) of their rugby career. Here's another one.
Young Magpies lock Tiaki Fabish - who also played for the Super Rugby U20 winning Barbarians team in 2022 - is playing for Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea (División de Honor, Spain).
This announcement is from October.Is that his dad's jersey?
@Machpants Haha, a bit big isn't it? Maybe they thought they'd signed a 2.5m tall lock! :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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Media release Crusaders:
https://crusaders.co.nz/latest/news/richie-mounga-to-depart-crusaders-after-2023/
