2019 under 20's

Number 10

Our record against South Africa in this U20 tournament (started 2008) is poor - one win and five losses:

2010: W 36-7 (sf)

2012: L 16-22 (F)

2013: L 34-41 (3rd/4th)

2014: L 24-33 (pool)
2014: L 25-32 (sf)

2018: L 30-40 (3rd/4th)

Stargazer

@Number-10 Yeah, and they have some really big units in that team. I think our boys will struggle against SA. If SA have as many handling errors in their game as they had against Scotland, then we have a chance though. Haven't watched their game against Georgia yet.

cgrant

Hard to make a global comment since the first 38 minutes are missing.
From what I saw during the second half, the passing was good and the forwards made the hard yards. Williams was a tower of strength with ball in hand. The biggest concern is the scrum. It must be a matter of technique surely as the NZ props are very big boys. Lineout OK.

Stargazer

@cgrant I watched the full game on demand. Nothing missing.

antipodean

I haven';t watched a lot of this, but I've seen enough to think Australia should hump England and you could flick a coin between South Africa and New Zealand.

Stargazer

NZ U20 team to play South Africa (Thu 13 June, 6.30am):

1 Ollie Norris
2 Kianu Kereru Symes (c)
3 Fletcher Newell
4 Cullen Grace
5 Tupou Vaa’i
6 Samipeni Finau
7 Kohan Herbert
8 Devan Flanders
9 Leroy Carter
10 Fergus Burke
11 Leicester Faingaanuku
12 Dallas McLeod
13 Billy Proctor
14 Etene Nanai-Seturo
15 Cole Forbes

Reserves
16 Shilo Klein
17 George Dyer
18 Tamaiti Williams
19 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa
20 Taine Plumtree
21 Kaylum Boshier
22 Jeriah Mua
23 Simon Parker
24 Taufa Funaki
25 Rivez Reihana
26 Lalomilo Lalomilo
27 Quinn Tupaea
28 Scott Gregory

Coach Craig Philpott has rung in the changes for the must-win pool match against South Africa.

Captain Kianu Kereru Symes returns to start at hooker and will be joined by Ollie Norris and Fletcher Newell in the front row. 

Samipeni Finau, Kohan Herbert and Devan Flanders combine as a dynamic loose forward trio for the second time after impressing against Georgia.

In the backline Fergus Burke, Etene Nanai-Seturo and Billy Proctor retain their starting positions from the 52—33 win over Scotland.

The extended bench has plenty of fire power and Philpott said it will play a crucial role in the match.

“There has been a lot of learning around how to manage the extended bench, we are able to react to how the game is developing to make sure the players we bring on are in a position to make a real impact.”

The New Zealand Under 20 side currently sit second, on points difference, behind South Africa in their pool. A win tomorrow would confirm their place in the semi-finals otherwise they would have to wait on other results to potentially qualify as the best finishing second place team.

http://www.allblacks.com/News/34255/nz-under-20s-named-for-final-pool-match

cgrant

I don't see this team beat the South Africans. Too many "meh" players in it.

mofitzy_

@cgrant
Having watched both NZ games I agree, however they are only 1 point ahead on PD after playing the same teams, and I think the NZ team got sloppy against Scotland after going 26-0 after 27 minutes.

Is Grace really 1.9m? If so, he is Blackwell 2.0, ranga and all.

Stargazer

Hmm, I can't find the link to the NZU20 game anywhere on the Spark Sport website. Help?

Stargazer

Just checked "visitor posts" on the Spark Sport Facebook page and it seems more people are trying - or having been trying - to watch U20s and hockey games on a computer, but the games weren't offered on the website. Apparently, you can watch them on other devices. As I can't watch it on my phone, I guess I'll have to wait until they make the video of the game available on the website afterwards.

This shit better not happen during the RWC! :pouting_face:

Stargazer

Okay, if you're watching - on whatever device - do not refresh your screen. Apparently, it will disappear if you do that.

MiketheSnow

Wales v Fiji was a roller-coaster.

Some cracking tries from both sides.

mofitzy_

Down 19-3 at HT. Only seen the last 15 minutes or so but NZ look poor.

Think we need a BP at minimum to make the semi.

Stargazer

Spoilers below. Results of earlier games.

:::

Georgia17 - 12 Scotland 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
Italy 14 - 38 Ireland ️
󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wales 44 - 28 Fiji
France 26 - 47 Argentina

:::

JK

THought NZ would struggle in this one. SA handicap +7.5 was generous but wtf is happening in Aus game? Have they rested players? Gonna wreck my multi

Rapido

@JK said in 2019 under 20's:

THought NZ would struggle in this one. SA handicap +7.5 was generous but wtf is happening in Aus game? Have they rested players? Gonna wreck my multi

First minute red card.

mofitzy_

@JK
Aus is guaranteed a semi so could be playing their 2nds.

JK

@mofitzy_ said in 2019 under 20's:

@JK
Aus is guaranteed a semi so could be playing their 2nds.

Yeah thats what I thought but saw comment re card...wont of helped!

mofitzy_

3rd yellow card for SA and penalty try NZ. 19-10.

mofitzy_

If NZ lose this then the coach has to go. Team is painful to watch at times.

The Silver Fern

2019 under 20's