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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    If there's a Kiwi team in the final, I'll support that Kiwi team. Easy.

    The argies are welcome to attend the post match bbq though

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    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    If there's a Kiwi team in the final, I'll support that Kiwi team. Easy.

    The argies are welcome to attend the post match bbq though

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    they can bring the BBQ, the wine, and the women. Cantabs can bring the trophy #playtoyourstrengths

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      in TSF shocker, some blurred lines between this thread (TRC) and the Super rugby final (3 doors down)

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/114030531/all-blacks-sonny-bill-williams-injured-again-in-doubt-for-rugby-championship-test-against-argentina

        Now here's a surprise.

        Gutted for him though as it sounds though he puts absolutely everything into being an AB. Something Akira Ioane could take a leaf from

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

          Bless! All I heard reading that is "No Rugby"

          lets be honest, this is the most traffic a thread has got before a game anyway. this place has been a dead zone so far this year. And most of what is posted is inane shit

          old jagsy might be a strange fruit, but at least he's kicked the hornets nest a bit.

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          @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          this place has been a dead zone so far this year

          Weird perception. Traffic is going nuts, the busiest it's been for years.

          Compared to the same period last year we have 50% more unique IPs. Posting is well up too

          Last year there was a very clear peak around the England Test. We've reached that level the last four weeks in a row

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          • R Offline
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            it might be horribly articulated - or maybe i'm getting the intent wrong - but jag's point re reece doesn't seem so far off the mark to me.
            reece was discharged without conviction. that means not convicted of a crime. we have a court system for a reason.
            sure that's a big fucking question mark hanging over his character, but it is only a question mark as far as i'm concerned - unless you have first-hand knowledge of what happened. too many on here seem willing to pass a judgement that a court was not prepared to pass, despite having less information available to them than the court did.

            "got off because he's a rugby player" is shit that gets spouted a lot. i'm not prepared to believe that about our court system unless i see some actual proper evidence of it. actual stats, not people going reece +sivivatu=proof.

            as to the polly/dr comparison - if you don't see reece as a question mark, then you're seeing him as a wife-beater which is not okay in any way ever - so there are no distinctions. how seriously you take a question mark over someone's character can depend a bit on their role in society, but in this case it's misguided - doesn't really apply to DV (as opposed to e.g. someone a bit dodgy/corrupt being a cop or mowing lawns). i personally think that presenting this situation to a kid as 'reece is a wife-beater, he got off because he's good at rugby, the crusaders and all blacks don't mind' is far more harmful than just going with what the court decided.

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            • R reprobate

              it might be horribly articulated - or maybe i'm getting the intent wrong - but jag's point re reece doesn't seem so far off the mark to me.
              reece was discharged without conviction. that means not convicted of a crime. we have a court system for a reason.
              sure that's a big fucking question mark hanging over his character, but it is only a question mark as far as i'm concerned - unless you have first-hand knowledge of what happened. too many on here seem willing to pass a judgement that a court was not prepared to pass, despite having less information available to them than the court did.

              "got off because he's a rugby player" is shit that gets spouted a lot. i'm not prepared to believe that about our court system unless i see some actual proper evidence of it. actual stats, not people going reece +sivivatu=proof.

              as to the polly/dr comparison - if you don't see reece as a question mark, then you're seeing him as a wife-beater which is not okay in any way ever - so there are no distinctions. how seriously you take a question mark over someone's character can depend a bit on their role in society, but in this case it's misguided - doesn't really apply to DV (as opposed to e.g. someone a bit dodgy/corrupt being a cop or mowing lawns). i personally think that presenting this situation to a kid as 'reece is a wife-beater, he got off because he's good at rugby, the crusaders and all blacks don't mind' is far more harmful than just going with what the court decided.

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              @reprobate said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              it might be horribly articulated - or maybe i'm getting the intent wrong - but jag's point re reece doesn't seem so far off the mark to me.
              reece was discharged without conviction. that means not convicted of a crime. we have a court system for a reason.
              sure that's a big fucking question mark hanging over his character, but it is only a question mark as far as i'm concerned - unless you have first-hand knowledge of what happened. too many on here seem willing to pass a judgement that a court was not prepared to pass, despite having less information available to them than the court did.

              "got off because he's a rugby player" is shit that gets spouted a lot. i'm not prepared to believe that about our court system unless i see some actual proper evidence of it. actual stats, not people going reece +sivivatu=proof.

              as to the polly/dr comparison - if you don't see reece as a question mark, then you're seeing him as a wife-beater which is not okay in any way ever - so there are no distinctions. how seriously you take a question mark over someone's character can depend a bit on their role in society, but in this case it's misguided - doesn't really apply to DV (as opposed to e.g. someone a bit dodgy/corrupt being a cop or mowing lawns). i personally think that presenting this situation to a kid as 'reece is a wife-beater, he got off because he's good at rugby, the crusaders and all blacks don't mind' is far more harmful than just going with what the court decided.

              We can put a line under this now.

              Let's try and keep this about the 2019 Championship and talk about the pros and cons of thinking about someone as a something in Off-Topic

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @nzzp yeah unfortunately we have lost many of our 'international' posters over the years, for a variety of reasons

                i, for one, blame the cantabs.

                That why I'm expecting every Kiwi rugby fan on this forum who doesn't support Canterbury to be supporting the Jaguares tomorrow night

                no no, that's not how it works. Internally we bicker and fight, but when some foreign invader comes in, we circle the wagons. We are all honorary Cantabs this week. I'v even blacked out a couple of my teeth in support

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                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @nzzp yeah unfortunately we have lost many of our 'international' posters over the years, for a variety of reasons

                i, for one, blame the cantabs.

                That why I'm expecting every Kiwi rugby fan on this forum who doesn't support Canterbury to be supporting the Jaguares tomorrow night

                no no, that's not how it works. Internally we bicker and fight, but when some foreign invader comes in, we circle the wagons. We are all honorary Cantabs this week. I'v even blacked out a couple of my teeth in support

                Aww thats so nice.

                I'd support the Jags over every other Kiwi team 🙂 hate them all

                Except for maybe the Blues, because I almost feel sorry for those losers

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                • JKJ JK

                  Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                  Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

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                  @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                  Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                  Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

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                  • SammyCS SammyC

                    @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                    Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                    Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

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                    @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                    Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                    Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

                    That would go a long way to explaining why he seemed so unfit.

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                      So as most of the selected Crusaders won't be going to Argentina, will they put Dane between two Auckland props? A second row of Pat and Retallick? Cane, Savea and Frizell/ Fifita. Smith, Beaudy, Ioane, Laumape, ALB, Smith and Jordie

                      Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        So as most of the selected Crusaders won't be going to Argentina, will they put Dane between two Auckland props? A second row of Pat and Retallick? Cane, Savea and Frizell/ Fifita. Smith, Beaudy, Ioane, Laumape, ALB, Smith and Jordie

                        Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

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                        #639

                        @antipodean Hansen seemed to suggest in the media that some Crusaders players may be on the plane to Argentina.

                        Some of them haven't had that much game time recently, so it wouldn't surprise me. Particularly, Franks and Taylor. Don't know about backs. Bridge? Ennor?

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          So as most of the selected Crusaders won't be going to Argentina, will they put Dane between two Auckland props? A second row of Pat and Retallick? Cane, Savea and Frizell/ Fifita. Smith, Beaudy, Ioane, Laumape, ALB, Smith and Jordie

                          Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

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                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

                          Such contempt!!!

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                          • SammyCS SammyC

                            @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                            Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                            Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

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                            @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                            Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                            Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

                            Yeah he was pretty farked and out of action for a good few weeks. We saw him at A&E about 4 weeks ago and he looked toast

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                              Franks doesn't need to travel as already 3 other THs in the squad, 4 if you also count Moli.

                              More likely to be some of the backs like Bridge. Goodhue too with SBW and Crotty out.

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                              • SammyCS SammyC

                                @JK said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                Just saw that big Karl is getting a run for Takapuna tomorrow in the quarter final vs Massey.

                                Also of interest is the man named at number 6.....the one and only Adam Thomson

                                Heard through the grapevine that Karl had been suffering from meningitis, good that he's over that

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                                @SammyC Yikes, that's as serious as it gets.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Franks doesn't need to travel as already 3 other THs in the squad, 4 if you also count Moli.

                                  More likely to be some of the backs like Bridge. Goodhue too with SBW and Crotty out.

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                                  @Bovidae I agree with your point that the frontrowers might not be needed but I think minutes played will also be a major factor to be taken into consideration. That's why maybe Bridge could be on the plane, but Goodhue, I doubt it.

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                                    Selectors obviously knew all about it but it was kept on the downlow from the media by the looks

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                                    • SammyCS SammyC

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @nzzp yeah unfortunately we have lost many of our 'international' posters over the years, for a variety of reasons

                                      i, for one, blame the cantabs.

                                      That why I'm expecting every Kiwi rugby fan on this forum who doesn't support Canterbury to be supporting the Jaguares tomorrow night

                                      no no, that's not how it works. Internally we bicker and fight, but when some foreign invader comes in, we circle the wagons. We are all honorary Cantabs this week. I'v even blacked out a couple of my teeth in support

                                      Aww thats so nice.

                                      I'd support the Jags over every other Kiwi team 🙂 hate them all

                                      Except for maybe the Blues, because I almost feel sorry for those losers

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                                      @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @nzzp yeah unfortunately we have lost many of our 'international' posters over the years, for a variety of reasons

                                      i, for one, blame the cantabs.

                                      That why I'm expecting every Kiwi rugby fan on this forum who doesn't support Canterbury to be supporting the Jaguares tomorrow night

                                      no no, that's not how it works. Internally we bicker and fight, but when some foreign invader comes in, we circle the wagons. We are all honorary Cantabs this week. I'v even blacked out a couple of my teeth in support

                                      Aww thats so nice.

                                      I'd support the Jags over every other Kiwi team 🙂 hate them all

                                      Except for maybe the Blues, because I almost feel sorry for those losers

                                      Cleaning my teeth as we speak...

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        this place has been a dead zone so far this year

                                        Weird perception. Traffic is going nuts, the busiest it's been for years.

                                        Compared to the same period last year we have 50% more unique IPs. Posting is well up too

                                        Last year there was a very clear peak around the England Test. We've reached that level the last four weeks in a row

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                                        @Duluth said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        this place has been a dead zone so far this year

                                        Weird perception. Traffic is going nuts, the busiest it's been for years.

                                        Compared to the same period last year we have 50% more unique IPs. Posting is well up too

                                        Last year there was a very clear peak around the England Test. We've reached that level the last four weeks in a row

                                        Interesting. Didn't feel that way

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Bovidae I agree with your point that the frontrowers might not be needed but I think minutes played will also be a major factor to be taken into consideration. That's why maybe Bridge could be on the plane, but Goodhue, I doubt it.

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                                          @Stargazer So Jordie the backup midfielder? Possibly Ennor but I think they see him as a wing/centre not the other way around (at this stage).

                                          Rieko could also be moved into centre if required with winger cover on the bench.

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