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    South Africa vs Australia at Ellis Park, Johannesburg, South Africa
    Referee: Paul Williams (New Zealand)
    Assistant referees: Matthew Carley (England), Karl Dickson (England)
    Television match official: Rowan Kitt (England)

    Argentina vs New Zealand in Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
    Assistant referees: Andrew Brace (Ireland), Alexandre Ruiz (France)
    Television match official: Graham Hughes (England)

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      Plenty of pressure on both teams in Jo'burg. SA will be fielding an understrength team with 15 players travelling to Wellington early. So a test of the Bok's depth, while Aust have a good chance to get a rare win in SA. On the other hand a loss, while not fatal, would be a blow to the Wallabies with tougher tests to follow.

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        Plenty of pressure on both teams in Jo'burg. SA will be fielding an understrength team with 15 players travelling to Wellington early. So a test of the Bok's depth, while Aust have a good chance to get a rare win in SA. On the other hand a loss, while not fatal, would be a blow to the Wallabies with tougher tests to follow.

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        @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        Plenty of pressure on both teams in Jo'burg. SA will be fielding an understrength team with 15 players travelling to Wellington early. So a test of the Bok's depth, while Aust have a good chance to get a rare win in SA. On the other hand a loss, while not fatal, would be a blow to the Wallabies with tougher tests to follow.

        An easy excuse for both teams. Upside really with the Wallabies if they get a win. It will be interesting given the announced squad what differences we'll see for the men in canary yellow.

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          Bok team named for this weekend:-

          Springboks – 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 S’bu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Francois Louw, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Rynhardt Elstadt, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth (c), 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
          Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Dillyn Leyds

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            Bok team named for this weekend:-

            Springboks – 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 S’bu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Francois Louw, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Rynhardt Elstadt, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth (c), 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
            Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Dillyn Leyds

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              So as most of the selected Crusaders won't be going to Argentina, will they put Dane between two Auckland props? A second row of Pat and Retallick? Cane, Savea and Frizell/ Fifita. Smith, Beaudy, Ioane, Laumape, ALB, Smith and Jordie

              Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

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                https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

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                  https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

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                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

                  Caveat emptor. The risk you run buying from anywhere other than the assigned outlet.

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                    So with the first two tests done, they will drop a number of players. Are they reducing the team from 39 to 35?

                    That would mean they will drop 4 players. Retallick is unavailable for the Bledisloe Cup matches and by Wednesday they'll know whether he'll be available for the RWC.

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                    I don't think they'll drop a prop or hooker yet, esp because Aumua hasn't played yet. But if they drop a prop and/or a hooker, the most likely candidates will IMO be Aumua and one of Moli/Laulala.

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                    If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, they'll probably keep Hemopo. He is the only player who was called up as a utility forward, not Fifita! Alternative: call up Pat T and drop an extra loosie.

                    I think it's more likely they'll drop a loose forward. I think it will be one of the candidate sixes: Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i. Normally, I'd say it would have to be Fifita, but with Brodie out, who knows what they'll do. I don't think they'll drop Frizell. So if they drop a second loosie, it will be one of Jacobson and Papali'i. I don't expect them to drop Todd (yet).

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                    I don't think they'll drop Josh Ioane yet, because he needs to be in the environment for as long as possible, even though he is unlikely to make the RWC squad. I don't see them make a choice between Laumape and SBW yet, so it's probably Ennor who has to go from the midfielders.

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                    They're likely to drop an outside back. Jordie is their lovechild, so he wont' get dropped. I think Reece will be the one to get dropped.

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                      They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                      • M Machpants

                        They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                        @Machpants Geez, one more. If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, he's the 5th player.
                        If there's a slight chance he may be available, they'll probably drop another loosie. So two of Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i, instead of one.

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                          They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                          @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

                          Wednesday. WEDNESDAY. FFS.

                          WTF is going on. We all know when the team is named!

                          I'm going for a lie down.

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                            Tu'inukuafe needs to be in the 23 for Perth if he remains in the squad. Some of the squad would be better served to be released to their province to play in the next 2-3 weeks.

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                              So with the first two tests done, they will drop a number of players. Are they reducing the team from 39 to 35?

                              That would mean they will drop 4 players. Retallick is unavailable for the Bledisloe Cup matches and by Wednesday they'll know whether he'll be available for the RWC.

                              -1
                              I don't think they'll drop a prop or hooker yet, esp because Aumua hasn't played yet. But if they drop a prop and/or a hooker, the most likely candidates will IMO be Aumua and one of Moli/Laulala.

                              -2
                              If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, they'll probably keep Hemopo. He is the only player who was called up as a utility forward, not Fifita! Alternative: call up Pat T and drop an extra loosie.

                              I think it's more likely they'll drop a loose forward. I think it will be one of the candidate sixes: Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i. Normally, I'd say it would have to be Fifita, but with Brodie out, who knows what they'll do. I don't think they'll drop Frizell. So if they drop a second loosie, it will be one of Jacobson and Papali'i. I don't expect them to drop Todd (yet).

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                              I don't think they'll drop Josh Ioane yet, because he needs to be in the environment for as long as possible, even though he is unlikely to make the RWC squad. I don't see them make a choice between Laumape and SBW yet, so it's probably Ennor who has to go from the midfielders.

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                              They're likely to drop an outside back. Jordie is their lovechild, so he wont' get dropped. I think Reece will be the one to get dropped.

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                              @Stargazer I think they will drop a prop and a hooker - I think this squad is a bit like the one they took to Japan last year - some guys were only picked to allow them to rest their big guns.

                              We don't need seven props or four hookers within the squad of 34.

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                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

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                                  Sure, they're probably hopeful he's available tomorrow! Likely is what I need to hear, not hopeful

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                                    dislocations can be straight forward and he might be sweet for the RWC, but could be complicated and potentially see him requiring reconstructive surgery and be gone for the rest of the year.

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                                      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/steve-hansen-says-brodie-retallick-good-possibility-make-rugby-world-cup-despite-shoulder-injury

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                                        No major nerve or ligament damage then. Good stuff, he should make it in time. Thank god for that.

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                                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

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                                          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

                                          No timeline has been given on my date with Winona Ryder either, but I remain hopeful.

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