Has Hansen gone stale?
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Give that man a gold watch.
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@booboo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rotated said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@smuts said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@rotated Poorly constructed joke on the idea that the ABs choked (let alone like dogs) in 95 rather than got beaten by a team with the irresistible force of history (and Suzie) on its side, a superior pack and the one defence in the tournament that could keep the ABs tryless.
Ah I see the choking like dogs line was canefan’s contribution thus the confusion.
1999 is the only one I’d even begin to consider as a choke and even there it was more a case of the team being understimulated rather than overstimulated and freezing.
Oohhh. 2007 was THE choke for me. In terms of tournament favouritism. The others were at least understandable.
Sure 1999 was an in game choke (14 point up).
Understand the "favourites" bit but what constitutes a choke? Having better skills but failing due to a mental breakdown?
Was in the stands for both of those mentioned.
1999 - our only real choke I reckon. Really thought we had it at half time, mentally switched off against a talented opposition, who switched on.
2007 was just a fucking joke. It wasn't a choke. Wayne Barnes was either incompetent (and shouldn't have been there), or a cheat.@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
2007 was just a fucking joke. It wasn't a choke. Wayne Barnes was either incompetent (and shouldn't have been there), or a cheat.
I was at that game - it was like watching a train crash in slow motion with Barnes completely losing the plot and the AB's game management as dumb as I have seen. McCaw's captaincy was appalling that day.
The only plus side that day was meeting up with fellow ferner Parc de Prince (remember him?) for a beer before the game
On the plus side, that was probably the one game which transformed All Blacks thinking and led to wins in 2011 & 2015
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
2007 was just a fucking joke. It wasn't a choke. Wayne Barnes was either incompetent (and shouldn't have been there), or a cheat.
I was at that game - it was like watching a train crash in slow motion with Barnes completely losing the plot and the AB's game management as dumb as I have seen. McCaw's captaincy was appalling that day.
The only plus side that day was meeting up with fellow ferner Parc de Prince (remember him?) for a beer before the game
On the plus side, that was probably the one game which transformed All Blacks thinking and led to wins in 2011 & 2015
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@victor-meldrew Yeah. I was there too. Awful day, but it probably did change the way our team functioned. Sometimes you need to beat a ref too.
Yep I remember Parcy, good sense of humour. Any idea what happened to him?
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@victor-meldrew Yeah. I was there too. Awful day, but it probably did change the way our team functioned. Sometimes you need to beat a ref too.
Yep I remember Parcy, good sense of humour. Any idea what happened to him?
I still chat with him on FB. (Was asking him about the riots and a classic French response of "it will pass"
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
2007 was just a fucking joke. It wasn't a choke. Wayne Barnes was either incompetent (and shouldn't have been there), or a cheat.
I was at that game - it was like watching a train crash in slow motion with Barnes completely losing the plot and the AB's game management as dumb as I have seen. McCaw's captaincy was appalling that day.
The only plus side that day was meeting up with fellow ferner Parc de Prince (remember him?) for a beer before the game
On the plus side, that was probably the one game which transformed All Blacks thinking and led to wins in 2011 & 2015
@victor-meldrew The crazy thing about '07 was that the first half was maybe the best rugby I've ever seen played. The french weren't bad, but you were incredible. But the frogs stuck in it and the longer they did, the more the pressure built on the ABs and Barnes. But as @Snowy says, sometimes you have to beat the ref too (which is a lesson I wish the boks and my fellow fans would learn, particularly when we play you.) You could feel the crowd, the french and the ABs all thinking here we go again. So choke seems a fair assessment for that game.
What is wonderful for ABs fans is that the '15 final felt very, very similar. When Dusatoir scored, fans and even the frogs seemed to say to themselves: oh we're on this script again.
But McCaw and everyone's favourite fisherman refused to let 20 years of hurt weigh them down. I think it is easy to dismiss how much fortitude that showed.
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@victor-meldrew The crazy thing about '07 was that the first half was maybe the best rugby I've ever seen played. The french weren't bad, but you were incredible. But the frogs stuck in it and the longer they did, the more the pressure built on the ABs and Barnes. But as @Snowy says, sometimes you have to beat the ref too (which is a lesson I wish the boks and my fellow fans would learn, particularly when we play you.) You could feel the crowd, the french and the ABs all thinking here we go again. So choke seems a fair assessment for that game.
What is wonderful for ABs fans is that the '15 final felt very, very similar. When Dusatoir scored, fans and even the frogs seemed to say to themselves: oh we're on this script again.
But McCaw and everyone's favourite fisherman refused to let 20 years of hurt weigh them down. I think it is easy to dismiss how much fortitude that showed.
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@smuts 2011 you mean. That was a massive battle and a massive relief. 2015 was far more enjoyable
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@smuts said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@canefan yes - 2011 not 2015.
I was there. Most tense rugby game I've ever seen bar none. The weight of expectation was huge, the feeling we were going to lose again was suffocating as the French came back. In the tight second half the crowd was noticeably quiet, the moment far too big for many to cheer. One of my mates hid up on the concourse because he couldn't bear to watch. To this day I have never watched the game on tv and probably never will
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Gatland finishes with Wales after RWC2019 and will head home. Into a Super job and to vie for an AB cartel place? Perhaps a deal has been done?
@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Gatland finishes with Wales after RWC2019 and will head home. Into a Super job and to vie for an AB cartel place? Perhaps a deal has been done?
(Rush) Defence coach?
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@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Gatland finishes with Wales after RWC2019 and will head home. Into a Super job and to vie for an AB cartel place? Perhaps a deal has been done?
(Rush) Defence coach?
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@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Gatland finishes with Wales after RWC2019 and will head home. Into a Super job and to vie for an AB cartel place? Perhaps a deal has been done?
(Rush) Defence coach?
@booboo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@canefan said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
Gatland finishes with Wales after RWC2019 and will head home. Into a Super job and to vie for an AB cartel place? Perhaps a deal has been done?
(Rush) Defence coach?
If he is keen to stop acting like a whiney bitch, and he wants to help the cause and be a team player, they should get him in. The rule that coaches must come from Super ranks is made to be broken isn't it?
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Never hurts to ask, and makes sense from NZRU perspective, I think they would have preferred a succession-plan where the next AB head coach had served some sort of coaching capacity with the team rather than come in from “the cold.”
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wouldnt he have been mid-contract then anyway, so woulda been a costly exercise if they were to try buy him out??
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wouldnt he have been mid-contract then anyway, so woulda been a costly exercise if they were to try buy him out??
@taniwharugby no I think he signed an extension so they tried to get him before that? Could be wrong.
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If Scmidt had walked away and accepted the AB offer, there were presumabhly no guarantees he would have gotten the AB head coach job, especially if he’d heard loud whispers about Fozzie being tipped, and I suspect being a competitive man and given how far he’d already ascended with Ireland, he wanted to see his plan play-out to the summit, which is RWC. So I reckon he was never realistically going to walk away from that Ireland job unless the NZRU came with an offer he couldn’t refuse.
