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Has Hansen gone stale?

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  • SiamS Offline
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    #79

    Well of course no one knows what's going on inside the camp.
    Therefore there is some logic in looking at reality.
    Hansen says there's more to come
    1014 and other such armchair analysts really get some sophisticated strategies and data (e.g..ABs rely on 3 second rucks, pods, defence lines, with 2 at the back the 4 or 5 rucks and their field position before unlocking the money move, no one runs the ball in the field quarter behind halfway etc.)
    That means every opposition has that data or patterns

    Given these logistics versus the fucken chip kicking dross and side to side bollocks we saw on Sat and suggesting a powder dry scenario isn't illogical.

    Might not be true, sure, but totally illogical to think that that performance against Ireland is all we got.

    Powder dry is a possible suggestion to what we've seen and a coach telling us that.

    It's not 100% bollocks or 100% correct.

    Don't see too many creditable explanations as to why the best pro team ever played a huge game with no discernible scoring tactics or points of difference.

    To wander into the illogical, it occurred to me that the game looked like an episode from Last Chance U where the coach sent them in to fail in order to dilute player power, laziness or complacency.
    I don't think that happened but by Christ they looked under prepared, tactically

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

      @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

      on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

      Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

      we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

      will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

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      @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

      will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

      Why wait!

      Look at who the players were who did 90% of the stupid little chip kicks. Look at which franchise they play for. Is it synonymous with rugby intelligence? πŸ™‚

      Maybe we've seen the failure of Hansen's Plan A - and now it's time to move to Plan A...CT - i.e. just roll out the Crusaders and a Token Brodie (he shoulda been one of us anyway) and a Token Ioane.

      :fishing_pole:

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        Reuben.Never even saw him.

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        @snowy when is Toeava due back from his sabbatical? Would slot nicely into the vacant no. 8 position.

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          look at those fucking idiot Crusader captains giving away repeated dumb penalties. retards...

          And i note that without our yeoman BOP flanker we had no one with the stones and the power to sit Irish runners on their asses. Too many pussy South Islanders...

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            We need a scapegoat ,

            I nominate Fozzie ,

            I blame Fozzie .

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            #83

            @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            We need a scapegoat ,

            I nominate Fozzie ,

            I blame Fozzie .

            Ireland have two world class coaches in Schmidt and Farrell. We have a world class coach in Shag who might be a bit stale atm, and two clowns as assistants. That's where the game was lost, we were out coached.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              look at those fucking idiot Crusader captains giving away repeated dumb penalties. retards...

              And i note that without our yeoman BOP flanker we had no one with the stones and the power to sit Irish runners on their asses. Too many pussy South Islanders...

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              @mariner4life That's Hansen's cunning plan. When we play in the RWC he'll just go, "Sammy, no stupid penalties today right. Or, you Reado."

              "Heh, heh. Sorted. Now where's my fish 'n chips, Fozzie?" .

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @mariner4life That's Hansen's cunning plan. When we play in the RWC he'll just go, "Sammy, no stupid penalties today right. Or, you Reado."

                "Heh, heh. Sorted. Now where's my fish 'n chips, Fozzie?" .

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                @chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                @mariner4life That's Hansen's cunning plan. When we play in the RWC he'll just go, "Sammy, no stupid penalties today right. Or, you Reado."

                "Heh, heh. Sorted. Now where's my fish 'n chips, Fozzie?" .

                easy job this coaching.

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                  further on Hansen, he has said he will be making an announcement on his future in the next 4 weeks or so....

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    further on Hansen, he has said he will be making an announcement on his future in the next 4 weeks or so....

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                    @taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    further on Hansen, he has said he will be making an announcement on his future in the next 4 weeks or so....

                    I hope Schmidt calls in the removalists immediately after that announcement.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                      @mariner4life That's Hansen's cunning plan. When we play in the RWC he'll just go, "Sammy, no stupid penalties today right. Or, you Reado."

                      "Heh, heh. Sorted. Now where's my fish 'n chips, Fozzie?" .

                      easy job this coaching.

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                      @mariner4life Not if you forget Steve's crab stick!

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                        Ian Foster, All Black head coach

                        alt text

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                          will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                          Why wait!

                          Look at who the players were who did 90% of the stupid little chip kicks. Look at which franchise they play for. Is it synonymous with rugby intelligence? πŸ™‚

                          Maybe we've seen the failure of Hansen's Plan A - and now it's time to move to Plan A...CT - i.e. just roll out the Crusaders and a Token Brodie (he shoulda been one of us anyway) and a Token Ioane.

                          :fishing_pole:

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                          @chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                          @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                          will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                          Why wait!

                          Look at who the players were who did 90% of the stupid little chip kicks. Look at which franchise they play for. Is it synonymous with rugby intelligence? πŸ™‚

                          Maybe we've seen the failure of Hansen's Plan A - and now it's time to move to Plan A...CT - i.e. just roll out the Crusaders and a Token Brodie (he shoulda been one of us anyway) and a Token Ioane.

                          :fishing_pole:

                          I think most observers have highlighted our lack of a decent punishing 6 this year and lets look at where we get all our 6s from.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                            @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                            on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                            Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

                            we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

                            will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

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                            @mariner4life Well it would help the ABs if 20% of the professional players had been properly developed over the last few years ...

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              Ian Foster, All Black head coach

                              alt text

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                              @mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.

                              Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.

                                Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.

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                                @taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                @mariner4life I reckon he and McLEod are the biggest losers over the weekend in terms of value.

                                Sure Crons scrum took a few hits, but it did get back up and put up a fight.

                                Cron has a lot of credit in the bank. We've got like 6 test quality props now, with huge development in all of them. Jesus look at Ofa! All anyone used to remember of him were those scrums against the Waratahs. Then he became a very good tight head prop, but no one wanted a bar of him at loosehead. Last two weeks he's been a fucking good loosehead as well. That's coaching right there.

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                                  @rocky-rockbottom said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  look at those fucking idiot Crusader captains giving away repeated dumb penalties. retards...
                                  Too many pussy South Islanders...

                                  I thought we had a moratorium on blaming provinces that ran until late Tuesday afternoon? Oh well, maybe's it's Tuesday already on the fucken moon FUCK THE CANTAB FORWARDS, rudderless tenured knackered old dogs #2019_Akira6_Toeava8_Papali'i7

                                  6 Luatua
                                  7 Cane
                                  8 Ioane

                                  Way, truth, light etc

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @chris-b said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                    Why wait!

                                    Look at who the players were who did 90% of the stupid little chip kicks. Look at which franchise they play for. Is it synonymous with rugby intelligence? πŸ™‚

                                    Maybe we've seen the failure of Hansen's Plan A - and now it's time to move to Plan A...CT - i.e. just roll out the Crusaders and a Token Brodie (he shoulda been one of us anyway) and a Token Ioane.

                                    :fishing_pole:

                                    I think most observers have highlighted our lack of a decent punishing 6 this year and lets look at where we get all our 6s from.

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                                    @nepia Yes - we clearly need an improvement in the coaching of our forwards.

                                    Hmmmm...who could we get...... πŸ™‚

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @nepia Yes - we clearly need an improvement in the coaching of our forwards.

                                      Hmmmm...who could we get...... πŸ™‚

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                                      @chris-b Filo Tiatia?

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                                      • D dejo

                                        @snowy when is Toeava due back from his sabbatical? Would slot nicely into the vacant no. 8 position.

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                                        @dejo said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                        @snowy when is Toeava due back from his sabbatical? Would slot nicely into the vacant no. 8 position.

                                        That's Hayman.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @chris-b Filo Tiatia?

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                                          @tim To coach a Crusaders pack? My compass is pointing to the South! πŸ™‚

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