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2020 All Blacks Squad

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    Its going to make SR 20/20 very interesting, a new Coach usually means some causalities from the year before especially after WC.
    If it ends up being Robertson he will I imagine like he has at the Crusaders plan for future years through to the next WC.
    You would expect whoever gets the Coaches Job will do the same and will be looked at as the coach for the 4 year Cycle in some form in the contract.
    It would be unwise to replace a coach half way through the 4 year cycle.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      Its going to make SR 20/20 very interesting, a new Coach usually means some causalities from the year before especially after WC.
      If it ends up being Robertson he will I imagine like he has at the Crusaders plan for future years through to the next WC.
      You would expect whoever gets the Coaches Job will do the same and will be looked at as the coach for the 4 year Cycle in some form in the contract.
      It would be unwise to replace a coach half way through the 4 year cycle.

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      @Chris said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      Its going to make SR 20/20 very interesting, a new Coach usually means some causalities from the year before especially after WC.
      If it ends up being Robertson he will I imagine like he has at the Crusaders plan for future years through to the next WC.
      You would expect whoever gets the Coaches Job will do the same and will be looked at as the coach for the 4 year Cycle in some form in the contract.
      It would be unwise to replace a coach half way through the 4 year cycle.

      Unless you have 1998 type results back to back.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Chris said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        Its going to make SR 20/20 very interesting, a new Coach usually means some causalities from the year before especially after WC.
        If it ends up being Robertson he will I imagine like he has at the Crusaders plan for future years through to the next WC.
        You would expect whoever gets the Coaches Job will do the same and will be looked at as the coach for the 4 year Cycle in some form in the contract.
        It would be unwise to replace a coach half way through the 4 year cycle.

        Unless you have 1998 type results back to back.

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        @antipodean said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        Unless you have 1998 type results back to back.

        yep, certainly a danger if you tie someone up for 4 years...should be 2 years with extension option dependant on specific performance/development criteria

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          Could we find a generous corporate to allow us to buy Luatua out of his Bristol contract?

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            Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

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            • CyclopsC Cyclops

              Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

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              @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

              Just need to get them playing for the same SR team. I.e. Auckland... 😉

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

                Just need to get them playing for the same SR team. I.e. Auckland... 😉

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                @antipodean said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

                Just need to get them playing for the same SR team. I.e. Auckland... 😉

                Ahhhhh NO

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                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                  Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

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                  @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                  Goodhue and ALB look like the new Nonu and Smith. They could be the starting midfield for 10 years. Most settled part of the team.

                  Four tests starting together and they are the most “settled”

                  We really do have problems. Razor to the rescue

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                    We didn't see enough of Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papali'i, Will Jordan or Damian McKenzie at international level in 2019. All had injuries woes.

                    All four, if injury free, should be regulars in the All Blacks 23 in 2020.

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                      Anyone hear about the NZRFU bringing back the Junior All Blacks next year?

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                        Anyone hear about the NZRFU bringing back the Junior All Blacks next year?

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                        @Nogusta said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        Anyone hear about the NZRFU bringing back the Junior All Blacks next year?

                        Would be a good idea. They could play some European club sides and the Pacific Nations Cup teams.

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                          Useful from a development perspective, but I also wonder about a strategic measure. It ties guys to us so once they're overseas they're not able to qualify under residency.

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                            The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

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                              The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

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                              @Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

                              Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

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                              • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                @Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

                                Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

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                                @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

                                Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

                                Much better name

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @Cyclops said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  @Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                  The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

                                  Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

                                  Much better name

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                                  @Kirwan Or NZ B? There should be only one ABs team

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                                    Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

                                    Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
                                    Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
                                    Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
                                    Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
                                    Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
                                    1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
                                    2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
                                    Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
                                    Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
                                    Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

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                                      @Higgins said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      The Junior All Blacks were originally an Under 23 Team and famously beat the real All Blacks 14 - 10 at Carisbrook in 1973 under the captaincy of Bruce Gemmell.

                                      Yeah I remember some consternation when they originally announced the name. I always preferred Shadow All Blacks personally.

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                                      @Cyclops they could wear grey...

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                                        Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

                                        Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
                                        Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
                                        Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
                                        Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
                                        Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
                                        1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
                                        2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
                                        Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
                                        Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
                                        Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

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                                        @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        Potential NZ "B" squad for 2020 (uncapped players only ?) :

                                        Props : Ross, O'Neill, Fidow, Tuilamo (he was injured this year but his size could guarantee a seat there)
                                        Hookers : Taukeiaho, Makalio
                                        Locks : IWL, Franklin, Scrafton, Whetton
                                        Loose forwards : Robinson, Sotutu, Gibson, Douglas, Havili, TBN
                                        Scrumhalves : Fakatava, Judd (leaving ?)
                                        1st Fives : Perofeta, Trask, McClutchie
                                        2nd Fives : Nankivell, Faiane, Walden
                                        Centres : Tupaea, Thompson
                                        Wings : Alaimalo, L. Fainganuuku, Rayasi, Lam (Nareki and Clarke with the 7s)
                                        Full backs : ?????????? (Stevenson, Narawa, McKay, Trainor : no great option there)

                                        Rayasi also with the 7s in 20/20

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                                          OK, thanks.
                                          And what about McNicol ? I hope his injury woes are over.

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