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6 Nations 2019

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.

    So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.

    Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.

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    @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

    Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare.

    Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.

    Note first air raid was in 1915, first airborne attack 1911 😉

    Which is the same as giving 3 points to slam winner, as by definition the slam winner will have win the head to head.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.

      So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.

      Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.

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      @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

      Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.

      So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.

      Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.

      Unbeaten always sits better than rolling over weak teams IMHO

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @MiketheSnow

        I can't make out if Ireland have been figured out or just haven't clicked this year.

        Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @MiketheSnow

        Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

        Oh Schmidt you shit.

        Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

        The roof stays open.

        The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

        Advantage Ireland.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @MiketheSnow

          Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

          Oh Schmidt you shit.

          Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

          The roof stays open.

          The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

          Advantage Ireland.

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          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @MiketheSnow

          Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

          Oh Schmidt you shit.

          Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

          The roof stays open.

          The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

          Advantage Ireland.

          What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

          Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

          PS It has rained prior to and during other 6N matches - Noah wasn’t required on those occasions either. It’s all gone a bit drama-queen for me.

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            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MiketheSnow

            Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

            Oh Schmidt you shit.

            Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

            The roof stays open.

            The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

            Advantage Ireland.

            What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

            Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

            PS It has rained prior to and during other 6N matches - Noah wasn’t required on those occasions either. It’s all gone a bit drama-queen for me.

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            @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MiketheSnow

            Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

            Oh Schmidt you shit.

            Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

            The roof stays open.

            The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

            Advantage Ireland.

            What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

            Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

            I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow

              Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

              Oh Schmidt you shit.

              Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

              The roof stays open.

              The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

              Advantage Ireland.

              What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

              Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

              I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

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              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MiketheSnow

              Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

              Oh Schmidt you shit.

              Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

              The roof stays open.

              The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

              Advantage Ireland.

              What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

              Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

              I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

              Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

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                @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow

                Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

                Oh Schmidt you shit.

                Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

                The roof stays open.

                The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

                Advantage Ireland.

                What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

                Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

                I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

                Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

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                @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MiketheSnow

                Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

                Oh Schmidt you shit.

                Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

                The roof stays open.

                The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

                Advantage Ireland.

                What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

                Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

                I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

                Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

                Snigger (if true).

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                  Close it, weld it closed... oops - how did that happen?

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                    I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

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                      I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

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                      @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                      Exactly.

                      At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                        Exactly.

                        At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                        Exactly.

                        At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                        That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

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                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                          Exactly.

                          At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                          That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

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                          @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                          Exactly.

                          At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                          That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                          Yep.

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                            I.... Think I'm supporting Wales

                            https://twitter.com/RHAGLENJONATHAN/status/1106668927835357184?s=19

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                              Exactly.

                              At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                              That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                              Yep.

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                              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                              Exactly.

                              At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                              That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                              Yep.

                              The default is open.
                              So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

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                                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                                Exactly.

                                At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                                That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                                Yep.

                                The default is open.
                                So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

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                                @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                                Exactly.

                                At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                                That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                                Yep.

                                The default is open.
                                So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

                                Closed.

                                Away team decides.

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                                  Exactly.

                                  At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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                                  @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

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                                    @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

                                    Exactly.

                                    And what I have been saying for years.

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                                      Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                                        @Nepia yup 😂
                                        9bbdb7f4-6c0c-457e-a487-64724bf6c6f3-image.jpeg https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/69/590x/England-rugby-home-ground-Twickenham-in-goal-area-933318.jpg

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                                          @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

                                          Well if we win today then we can go to the 6 Nations table and say we've done as you asked but from here on in we're going to decide.

                                          So get fucked.

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