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    By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?

    In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.

    In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.

    Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.

    If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.

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    • gt12G gt12

      By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?

      In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.

      In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.

      Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.

      If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.

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      @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

      By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?

      In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.

      In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.

      Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.

      If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.

      Still have to add 1 more.

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        Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!

        Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:

        Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;

        Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

        Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

        Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

        Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

        Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

        Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

        Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

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          Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!

          Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:

          Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;

          Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

          Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

          Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

          Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

          Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

          Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

          Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

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          @Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.

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          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

            @Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.

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            @Yeetyaah I'm not so sure. SBW is guaranteed a spot on the (extended) RC squad if fit. But he'll still have to prove himself to get to the RWC tho in my opinion.

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              @Yeetyaah I'm not so sure. SBW is guaranteed a spot on the (extended) RC squad if fit. But he'll still have to prove himself to get to the RWC tho in my opinion.

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              @Machpants I really hope so. I feel Laumape would be the one to miss out which would be a shame as he's been in great form.

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                I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

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                  I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

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                  @Bones ALB probably too

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                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                    @Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.

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                    @Yeetyaah said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    @Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.

                    a tyro loose forward (Jacobsen) who hasn't played at the top level? No thanks.

                    They'll take Hemopo or Savea or Whitelock (L) before him ... forwards are not going to get picked for the RWC without experience.

                    Outside backs, on the other hand, could go full NMS

                    Edit: By Savea, I meant Ioane of course. Posting tired and confusing families with top class wings and excellent loose forward brothers...

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Bones ALB probably too

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                      @taniwharugby I think ALB's first game for the Chiefs was on the wing in 2014.

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                        @Yeetyaah said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                        @Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.

                        a tyro loose forward (Jacobsen) who hasn't played at the top level? No thanks.

                        They'll take Hemopo or Savea or Whitelock (L) before him ... forwards are not going to get picked for the RWC without experience.

                        Outside backs, on the other hand, could go full NMS

                        Edit: By Savea, I meant Ioane of course. Posting tired and confusing families with top class wings and excellent loose forward brothers...

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                        @nzzp They're also not going to take three specialist sixes + Barrett.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

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                          @Bones said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

                          That's a fucken big pinch Bonesy

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                            I think they will take 5 props so add Laulalu
                            Drop Ennor or Havalli as they won’t take that many outside backs
                            Add Pat T instead of Jacobsen (too soon for him)as they will use Barrett as 6 cover especially in the lesser pool games
                            SBW will be picked one of those MF will drop out
                            Otherwise Dowds team is close
                            That’s who I think the selectors will pick not who I would

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                              Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!

                              Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:

                              Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;

                              Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

                              Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

                              Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                              Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                              Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                              Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

                              Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

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                              @Machpants said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!

                              Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:

                              Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;

                              Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

                              Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

                              Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                              Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                              Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                              Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

                              Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

                              As you say at least one too many backs and one too few props.

                              Add Nepo Laulala and drop David Havili.

                              Then check your balance as to whether you need a 4th lock (Pat T) or a lock/6 (Fifita). And whether Jacobson and/or Ennor miss out.

                              At least.

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                                @Machpants said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!

                                Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:

                                Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;

                                Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

                                Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

                                Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                                Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                                Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

                                Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

                                As you say at least one too many backs and one too few props.

                                Add Nepo Laulala and drop David Havili.

                                Then check your balance as to whether you need a 4th lock (Pat T) or a lock/6 (Fifita). And whether Jacobson and/or Ennor miss out.

                                At least.

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                                @booboo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                It is a fecking awful squad 16 forwards & 15 backs 🤡 :globe_showing_europe-africa:

                                I'd add Gus Ta'avo from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out

                                Liam Coltman for Harris at Hooker

                                Replace Jacobsen with Hemepo

                                Drop Havilli from the sqaud

                                I'd add Angus Ta'avao from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out

                                Drop Ennor replace them with Tim Perry who'll be 3rd choice LH prop

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                                  @booboo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                  It is a fecking awful squad 16 forwards & 15 backs 🤡 :globe_showing_europe-africa:

                                  I'd add Gus Ta'avo from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out

                                  Liam Coltman for Harris at Hooker

                                  Replace Jacobsen with Hemepo

                                  Drop Havilli from the sqaud

                                  I'd add Angus Ta'avao from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out

                                  Drop Ennor replace them with Tim Perry who'll be 3rd choice LH prop

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                                  @Jaguares4real

                                  Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs

                                  Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;

                                  Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

                                  Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

                                  Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Jackson Hemepo, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                                  Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                  Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                                  Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

                                  Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

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                                    @Bones said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

                                    That's a fucken big pinch Bonesy

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                                    @MN5 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    @Bones said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    I reckon Laumape could cover wing at a pinch too.

                                    That's a fucken big pinch Bonesy

                                    Because?

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                                      @Jaguares4real

                                      Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs

                                      Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;

                                      Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;

                                      Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock

                                      Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Jackson Hemepo, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                                      Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                      Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                                      Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape

                                      Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

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                                      @Jaguares4real said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      @Jaguares4real

                                      Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs

                                      Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;

                                      Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles; Nathan Harris

                                      Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock, Jackson Hemepo Pat T

                                      Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, , Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                                      Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                      Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                                      Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape SBW

                                      Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

                                      I understand that is what you would select but this is the more likely position..

                                      Harris may not be popular with many but he has brownie points with the selecters and a proven record of being a strong scrummager especially in combination with Karl T and Angus T.
                                      If they are going to take four locks they will opt for Pat T and have S Barrett as a potential lock/6
                                      Someone in that midfield selection has to make way for SBW. I would ditch Crotty but I suspect he will stay due to experience and Ngani will be unlucky.

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                                        @Jaguares4real said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @Jaguares4real

                                        Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs

                                        Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;

                                        Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles; Nathan Harris

                                        Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock, Jackson Hemepo Pat T

                                        Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, , Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read

                                        Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara

                                        Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                                        Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape SBW

                                        Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.

                                        I understand that is what you would select but this is the more likely position..

                                        Harris may not be popular with many but he has brownie points with the selecters and a proven record of being a strong scrummager especially in combination with Karl T and Angus T.
                                        If they are going to take four locks they will opt for Pat T and have S Barrett as a potential lock/6
                                        Someone in that midfield selection has to make way for SBW. I would ditch Crotty but I suspect he will stay due to experience and Ngani will be unlucky.

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                                        @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        idfield s

                                        You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

                                        But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

                                        Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

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                                          @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          idfield s

                                          You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

                                          But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

                                          Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

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                                          @Jaguares4real said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          @Crucial said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          idfield s

                                          You're right in that it's the 31 I'd would take to Japan

                                          But the 3 amendments you've made are likely to take place

                                          Hansen is a pick and stick kind of coach

                                          Hansen and Co WILL make hard decisions if they feel they are necessary, but they also trust their ability to stick with proven selections and make them work in order to keep the bonus of experience.
                                          RWCs have really borne out the edict that experience counts a lot to get through the knockout stages.

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