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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Serious question because I can’t remember, Did he penalise us in the second half ?

    The penalty count was 10-2, I can't find a half time break down - but we didn't get one in the last 60 minutes from memory? Must have been at least 3-4 in the second half for the French.

    A lot is made of the forward pass, or yellow card, but from a purely statistical perspective the odds of having 70% possession/territory and being negative 8 on the penalty count is impossible without incompetent (wilful or not) refereeing.

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    @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    A lot is made of the forward pass, or yellow card, but from a purely statistical perspective the odds of having 70% possession/territory and being negative 8 on the penalty count is impossible without incompetent (wilful or not) refereeing.

    The reffing WAS appalling.

    The way the ABs reacted/adapted to that situation was even worse

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      Steve's confident. Are you?

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12277556

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        A handy reference to the difference between UK, Great Britain and the British Isles

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        @PecoTrain said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

        @pakman

        A handy reference to the difference between UK, Great Britain and the British Isles

        None of that is news to me, but many residents of the British Isles, but NOT Great Britain, consider themselves British.

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          I think the part that doesn’t get enough mention,

          Losing carter and Evans in quick succession was fucken massive , particularly Evans , who looked like he was about to add some much needed spark when he broke the line, then he was gone.

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          • The IrishmanT The Irishman

            @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            "loyalty to a particular team"

            Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

            Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

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            @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            "loyalty to a particular team"

            Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

            Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

            Just found the comments in the article a bit odd about calling Ronan with him being Irish and having loyalties elsewhere. He should also know just as much about NZ rugby given that he is a Kiwi. Nothing petty about it.

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            • rotatedR rotated

              @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              Serious question because I can’t remember, Did he penalise us in the second half ?

              The penalty count was 10-2, I can't find a half time break down - but we didn't get one in the last 60 minutes from memory? Must have been at least 3-4 in the second half for the French.

              A lot is made of the forward pass, or yellow card, but from a purely statistical perspective the odds of having 70% possession/territory and being negative 8 on the penalty count is impossible without incompetent (wilful or not) refereeing.

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              @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              Serious question because I can’t remember, Did he penalise us in the second half ?

              The penalty count was 10-2, I can't find a half time break down - but we didn't get one in the last 60 minutes from memory? Must have been at least 3-4 in the second half for the French.

              A lot is made of the forward pass, or yellow card, but from a purely statistical perspective the odds of having 70% possession/territory and being negative 8 on the penalty count is impossible without incompetent (wilful or not) refereeing.

              Pretty sure that you have all of that correct.

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                @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                A lot of dividends.

                Didn't bloody well feel like it at the time..... 😠

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                A lot of dividends.

                Didn't bloody well feel like it at the time..... 😠

                Your sacrifice to the greater good had been noted 😉

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  "loyalty to a particular team"

                  Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                  Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

                  Just found the comments in the article a bit odd about calling Ronan with him being Irish and having loyalties elsewhere. He should also know just as much about NZ rugby given that he is a Kiwi. Nothing petty about it.

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                  @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  "loyalty to a particular team"

                  Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                  Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

                  Just found the comments in the article a bit odd about calling Ronan with him being Irish and having loyalties elsewhere. He should also know just as much about NZ rugby given that he is a Kiwi. Nothing petty about it.

                  But Ronan has inside knowledge on Richie which would be valuable because he hasn't played enough test footy for teams to fully analyze him yet. Joe has no knowledge of the inner workings of the current AB setup that could help Ireland

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                    #652

                    Irish Journalistic (or should that be Jingoistic) bingo:

                    Haka questioned? Check.
                    All Blacks cynical cheats? Check
                    Poaching? Not yet
                    Pick on individual's off field behaviour? Check ...

                    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116712390/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-writer-questions-nz-values-over-sevu-reece-selection

                    Ireland taking the moral high ground ...

                    Gutter level IMO.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      Irish Journalistic (or should that be Jingoistic) bingo:

                      Haka questioned? Check.
                      All Blacks cynical cheats? Check
                      Poaching? Not yet
                      Pick on individual's off field behaviour? Check ...

                      https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116712390/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-writer-questions-nz-values-over-sevu-reece-selection

                      Ireland taking the moral high ground ...

                      Gutter level IMO.

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                      @booboo shows they are worried about another 1/4 exit...

                      Someone should ask these muppets about the Cibi, Sipi Tau and Sivi Tsu and why they don't attract similar attention...or why Munster were allowed to do one in that mid week match some years back...

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        "loyalty to a particular team"

                        Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                        Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

                        Just found the comments in the article a bit odd about calling Ronan with him being Irish and having loyalties elsewhere. He should also know just as much about NZ rugby given that he is a Kiwi. Nothing petty about it.

                        But Ronan has inside knowledge on Richie which would be valuable because he hasn't played enough test footy for teams to fully analyze him yet. Joe has no knowledge of the inner workings of the current AB setup that could help Ireland

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                        @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        But Ronan has inside knowledge on Richie which would be valuable because he hasn't played enough test footy for teams to fully analyze him yet.

                        I doubt that Ronan knows much about Richie that they can't see from Crusaders and AB matches. Maybe what he has for breakfast or something? That is probably the real reason why Joe didn't bother calling him, there wasn't much to learn.

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                        • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          "loyalty to a particular team"

                          Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                          Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

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                          @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          "loyalty to a particular team"

                          Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                          Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

                          He surely is - as long as he realises that under The Treason Act (1922) - if he wins, we're going to stick him against a wall and shoot him! 🙂

                          Joe's got away incredibly lightly - compared to when Robbie Deans coached Australia.

                          To say something nice about him - at least Chieka is lining up on the side of the Loyalist coaches along with Hansen, Erasmus and Brunel.

                          I'm not averse to seeing them overcome the traitors, Jones, Gatland, Joseph and Schmidt! 🙂

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                            I know it's a professional game etc...

                            But screw it, if any player or coach decides to represent another tier 1 nation, he should have his citizenship revoked.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              "loyalty to a particular team"

                              Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

                              Such a petty comment there snowy. The mans not allowed to coach abroad no?

                              He surely is - as long as he realises that under The Treason Act (1922) - if he wins, we're going to stick him against a wall and shoot him! 🙂

                              Joe's got away incredibly lightly - compared to when Robbie Deans coached Australia.

                              To say something nice about him - at least Chieka is lining up on the side of the Loyalist coaches along with Hansen, Erasmus and Brunel.

                              I'm not averse to seeing them overcome the traitors, Jones, Gatland, Joseph and Schmidt! 🙂

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                              @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              He surely is - as long as he realises that under The Treason Act (1922) - if he wins, we're going to stick him against a wall and shoot him!

                              If the authorities get to him before I do. Otherwise he is a coat.

                              I don't really have a problem with Joe, he actually hasn't been a whiney, bitchy type unlike some of the Irish press who get paid to be so. Some other coaches are of that ilk as well.
                              There also seems to be a question over where is originally from. Herald says Kaiwaka, Wiki says Kawakawa.

                              If we lose tonight and I have to make a coat, Kaiwaka would be more convenient, hence me looking it up.

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                                Any US based Ferners have good options to stream the game? My LA based brother is getting charged $35, figured there must be a cheaper option.

                                PM if need be.

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                                  I like joe , yes he is coaching the enemy , that’s professional sport , we have to get used to it, but he comes across as a good fella

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                                    I know it's a professional game etc...

                                    But screw it, if any player or coach decides to represent another tier 1 nation, he should have his citizenship revoked.

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                                    @akan004 Yeah - I'm OK with Jamie - he's in a missionary position.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @akan004 Yeah - I'm OK with Jamie - he's in a missionary position.

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                                      @Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @akan004 Yeah - I'm OK with Jamie - he's in a missionary position.

                                      To be fair to Jamie, Japan were considered a tier 2 team by most before this RWC. He can retain his citizenship.

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        I like joe , yes he is coaching the enemy , that’s professional sport , we have to get used to it, but he comes across as a good fella

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        I like joe , yes he is coaching the enemy , that’s professional sport , we have to get used to it, but he comes across as a good fella

                                        Like Joe Pesci.....gonna be a made man.... 🙂

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          Irish Journalistic (or should that be Jingoistic) bingo:

                                          Haka questioned? Check.
                                          All Blacks cynical cheats? Check
                                          Poaching? Not yet
                                          Pick on individual's off field behaviour? Check ...

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116712390/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-writer-questions-nz-values-over-sevu-reece-selection

                                          Ireland taking the moral high ground ...

                                          Gutter level IMO.

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                                          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          Irish Journalistic (or should that be Jingoistic) bingo:

                                          Haka questioned? Check.
                                          All Blacks cynical cheats? Check
                                          Poaching? Not yet
                                          Pick on individual's off field behaviour? Check ...

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116712390/all-blacks-v-ireland-irish-writer-questions-nz-values-over-sevu-reece-selection

                                          Ireland taking the moral high ground ...

                                          Gutter level IMO.

                                          Really hope that Reece scores the match winning try. That will shut him up.

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