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    Kiwi coach Joe Schmidt has said he's unsure over whether or not he'll return to rugby, having vacated his long held Ireland post after this year's World Cup in Japan.
    
    However, promoting his new book Ordinary Joe, Schmidt hinted that his time as a rugby coach could now be done.
    
    "I'm not sure I'll ever go back to coaching," the Kiwi told the Daily Telegraph.
    
    "I just don't know. I want to give myself a bit of distance. I'm emotionally attached. I do take it home with me.
    
    "But it's not like coaching in football where you can potentially accumulate enough to retire permanently. I'll have to go back to work at some stage. I'm just not sure what that will look like."
    

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/im-not-sure-ill-ever-go-back-joe-schmidt-throws-coaching-future-into-doubt

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      Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

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        Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

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        @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

        Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

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          @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

          Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

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          @Snowy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

          Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

          Audio version?

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            Heard him interviewed on a Irish podcast, where he joined them to push his book release. Thought it was interesting that in his first teaching job (Palmy Boys, I think) he requested to coach the basketball team but the boss told him to take the rugby team... and he never looked back.

            The first couple of chapters are autobiographical but from there after it is more of a diary.

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              @Snowy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

              Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

              Audio version?

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              @mariner4life Coles Notes?

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                Heard him interviewed on a Irish podcast, where he joined them to push his book release. Thought it was interesting that in his first teaching job (Palmy Boys, I think) he requested to coach the basketball team but the boss told him to take the rugby team... and he never looked back.

                The first couple of chapters are autobiographical but from there after it is more of a diary.

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                @Wurzel He actually did coach bball. My team in fact. I was in 3rd form, 1990, he knew nothing about the game. He didn't let a look in at Senior A level, we had a VERY good coach there, I'd struggle to believe he ever got offered that role.

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                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117838943/why-tony-brown-put-japan-before-the-all-blacks

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                    The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                    That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                      That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

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                      @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

                      That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

                      It would seem JJ, among others, did not get the impression he had a strong chance. He's still young and will have another chance. Back to collecting the yen

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                        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/hurricanes-coach-john-plumtree-all-blacks-assistant-under-ian-foster

                        Hurricanes coach John Plumtree to be All Blacks' assistant coach under Ian Foster

                        The Hurricanes could be in the market for a new head coach going into the 2020 Super Rugby season, with current boss John Plumtree aligning himself with Ian Foster in the race to take charge of the the All Blacks', 1 NEWS understands.

                        With the search for the next All Blacks coach seemingly down to Steve Hansen's assistant Foster, and Crusaders coach Scott Robertson, any candidates applying for the job have been told by New Zealand Rugby to present themselves as an entire coaching unit.

                        It is understood that Plumtree has aligned himself with Foster's coaching team, and would conceivably take on the role of assistant - should Foster get the nod to step into the head coaching role.

                        Plumtree boasts an impressive CV from his coaching career, having helped the Hurricanes to their maiden Super Rugby title back in 2016 as assistant to Chris Boyd.

                        He then took over in the role of head coach last season, in which the Hurricanes finished second in the New Zealand conference, eliminated at the semi-final stage by eventual winners, the Crusaders,

                        1 NEWS also understands that current defence coach Scott McLeod will remain in the All Blacks' setup regardless of who takes over as head coach. That adds some intrigue to Plumtree's involvement, given defence has been his focus with the Hurricanes.

                        Sources tell 1 NEWS that the first interviews in front of New Zealand Rugby's appointment panel will take place early this week.

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                          https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/hurricanes-coach-john-plumtree-all-blacks-assistant-under-ian-foster

                          Hurricanes coach John Plumtree to be All Blacks' assistant coach under Ian Foster

                          The Hurricanes could be in the market for a new head coach going into the 2020 Super Rugby season, with current boss John Plumtree aligning himself with Ian Foster in the race to take charge of the the All Blacks', 1 NEWS understands.

                          With the search for the next All Blacks coach seemingly down to Steve Hansen's assistant Foster, and Crusaders coach Scott Robertson, any candidates applying for the job have been told by New Zealand Rugby to present themselves as an entire coaching unit.

                          It is understood that Plumtree has aligned himself with Foster's coaching team, and would conceivably take on the role of assistant - should Foster get the nod to step into the head coaching role.

                          Plumtree boasts an impressive CV from his coaching career, having helped the Hurricanes to their maiden Super Rugby title back in 2016 as assistant to Chris Boyd.

                          He then took over in the role of head coach last season, in which the Hurricanes finished second in the New Zealand conference, eliminated at the semi-final stage by eventual winners, the Crusaders,

                          1 NEWS also understands that current defence coach Scott McLeod will remain in the All Blacks' setup regardless of who takes over as head coach. That adds some intrigue to Plumtree's involvement, given defence has been his focus with the Hurricanes.

                          Sources tell 1 NEWS that the first interviews in front of New Zealand Rugby's appointment panel will take place early this week.

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                          @Tim I think it probably goes without saying Fozzie would have bought McLeod with him, but you have to assume Razor approached McLeod as well to see if he would be keen?

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                            @Tim I think it probably goes without saying Fozzie would have bought McLeod with him, but you have to assume Razor approached McLeod as well to see if he would be keen?

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                            @taniwharugby Disappointing that the ABs can't do better than him.

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                              @taniwharugby Disappointing that the ABs can't do better than him.

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                              @Tim possibly the preferred defence coach for Hansen, Foster and Robertson ... but you don't rate him?

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                                @Tim possibly the preferred defence coach for Hansen, Foster and Robertson ... but you don't rate him?

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                                @nzzp When was the AB defence under him particularly good?

                                Just being a coach for the ABs over the last two years is not impressive.

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                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12290683

                                  Foster clearly has a foot in the door following his eight years as All Blacks assistant – the final part of which finished with the disappointing third place World Cup in Japan.

                                  But with a team believed to feature John Plumtree, Greg Feek, Scott McLeod and, possibly, Leon MacDonald or David Hill, Foster will arrive for his interview this week well prepared and backed it seems.

                                  Known for his inspirational theming, Robertson must deliver a compelling presentation to sell his alternate big picture vision which delivered three successive titles for the Crusaders.

                                  The Herald understands his pitch will include respected Crusaders forwards coach Jason Ryan and Robertson is believed to have also recruited Hurricanes assistant Jason Holland, a scenario that may leave split loyalties in the Wellington franchise with Hurricanes head coach Plumtree on Foster's team.

                                  MacDonald is somewhat of a wildcard given he worked with Robertson at the Crusaders and has said he is committed to the Blues. He is, however, a sharp, valued mind and it would not surprise if Foster attempts to try and include him.

                                  Hill, the former Chiefs and one test first five-eighth, spent time working on the All Blacks kicking at the World Cup and is committed to joining the Chiefs under Warren Gatland but would no doubt jump at the fast track option to the national team.

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                                    Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                    Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                    Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

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                                      Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                      Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                      Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

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                                      @Chester-Draws said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                      Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                      Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

                                      Sounds like a great idea to me. I mean why not accept a new job but then apply for another one? Surely that's what people at your work do too?

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                                      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                        Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                        Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                        Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

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                                        @Chester-Draws There are maybe five jobs available for these coaches. That isn't comparable with senior teaching positions, or few other occupations.

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                                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                          Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                          Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                          Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

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                                          @Chester-Draws said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          Dropping out early seems weak to me.

                                          Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

                                          Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

                                          If you are an internal candidate NZRU employed candidate - sure.

                                          In both cases if Rennie and Joseph didn't accept the preemptive offers the Unions probably would have needed to open applications otherwise it wouldn't be until mid-to-late January that a decision could be made at the earliest.

                                          Cotter showed he was willing in 2011 and where did that get him? Overlooked for a Super post by all reports.

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