All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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Boks will be happy, apparently
https://keo.co.za/why-south-africans-should-be-rooting-for-ian-foster-as-all-blacks-coach/
@Machpants said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Boks will be happy, apparently
https://keo.co.za/why-south-africans-should-be-rooting-for-ian-foster-as-all-blacks-coach/
Keo? Pfft
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So we are losing some decent leadership, loose forward balance needs to be figured out. Backline selects itself, depending on how he wants to play.
Its a big opportunity for Foster to make some changes. This will be his team and I'm looking forward to what changes he does make. I'll be disappointed if we don't see some changes in playing style. I think my worry is just more of the same, we need to innovate and push the envelope.Can't help but feel he would be my last choice though.
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First of all, I hope Foster proves all the doubters wrong. Because I want the All Blacks to win and be great.
Second, Robertson gets time to rebuild the Crusaders after their player exodus and the departure of several coaches. It will be interesting to see whether he'll give it another go in two years time or will go overseas. I have no doubt he'll be the ABs coach one day, but not sure it will be in two years time.
Third, I hope Foster's coaching team will be more inspiring than what's been suggested over the past few weeks in the media. What I've seen looks boring.
Fourth, I'll have low expectations for the 2020 test matches. Not only because of this appointment, but also - to a degree - because of the exodus of experienced players.
All of the above would be different if Robertson is a surprise addition to Foster's coaching set-up as an assistant coach.
@Stargazer said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
What I've seen looks boring.
Nothing wrong with boring if you're winning...
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Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.
@mofitzy_ said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.
The key is not just the head coach but the coaching team. Joseph and Brown are a great team but Joseph without Brown not so good
The other aspect is coaches who can understand and get the best from players from very different backgrounds etc. For example I hope they have one at least non white coach or selector.
If Foster can get a team of quality assistant coaches who gel together it could be a great outcome. Plumtree if he is involved would be a great start
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@dogmeat said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@ACT-Crusader so we're consistent.
When we are happy we are wrong and when we are unhappy - we are wrong.
Time for a beer methinks
“We are consistently wrong” - put it on the TSF homepage
I recall everyone on here being stoked with the team we selected in Perth...
@No-Quarter said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
I recall everyone on here being stoked with the team we selected in Perth...
It was a decent team. I don't think the players were the problem.
The Fern, collectively, had been banging on about how poor our game plans had been since the Lions series.
I maintain that we were right -- it was in the coaching box that we failed, not the players on the pitch.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Conversely there were high expectations heading into 2000 after the Wayne Smith appointment and things didn’t really pan out that well....
Wayne Smith is the first guy I would put on any coaching list. He's absolutely brilliant.
Our assessment of his ability was correct except one rather key flaw -- he isn't a head coach.
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Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.
@mofitzy_ said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Completely wishful thinking but perhaps they want a caretaker coach until other coaches become available. Of course, if he does well then he keeps the job, so it should be win win.
Under-qualified succession candidates like Foster seem to always get the gig over younger upstarts in instances like this because it is simultaneously harder to turn them down (part of the furniture, sympathy, connections), but easier to fire them in the future (you had your chance, we gave you the benefit of the doubt etc).
It's the wrong way of making decisions and the antithesis of what NZ Rugby is at it's strongest; a meritocracy.
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Hansen had 86.9% (88.8 if you count draws as 50%)
Henry 85.4% (no draws)
Mitchell 82.1% (83.8%)
Smith 70.6% (no draws)
Hart 75.6% ( 77.8%)
Mains 67.6% (69.1%)Thanks to http://www.lassen.co.nz/pickandgo.php
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@Stargazer said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
What I've seen looks boring.
Nothing wrong with boring if you're winning...
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
Nothing wrong with boring if you're winning...
plenty moaned about rugby being boring a few years back...team picks itself, we win too much...
be interesting to see what changes they make to the playing 23
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@voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think
Hasen should really be viewed as the first cycle with McCaw/Carter/Smith/Nonu and the second cycle without. Much like Hart he was a 95% coach in the first half of his tenure and effectively sub 70% against tier one sides in the second stanza.
The percentage thing is pretty much a misnomer anyway unless you are comparing full cycle to full cycle the ~10% difference between Smith and Mitchell is that Smith had two 3N and one EOYT vs two EOYT, two 3N and a RWC.
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@voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think
Hasen should really be viewed as the first cycle with McCaw/Carter/Smith/Nonu and the second cycle without. Much like Hart he was a 95% coach in the first half of his tenure and effectively sub 70% against tier one sides in the second stanza.
The percentage thing is pretty much a misnomer anyway unless you are comparing full cycle to full cycle the ~10% difference between Smith and Mitchell is that Smith had two 3N and one EOYT vs two EOYT, two 3N and a RWC.
@rotated said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@voodoo said in All Black Coach - Ian Foster:
@booboo Hanson was something like 79% over the last 3yrs I think
Hasen should really be viewed as the first cycle with McCaw/Carter/Smith/Nonu and the second cycle without. Much like Hart he was a 95% coach in the first half of his tenure and effectively sub 70% against tier one sides in the second stanza.
The percentage thing is pretty much a misnomer anyway unless you are comparing full cycle to full cycle the ~10% difference between Smith and Mitchell is that Smith had two 3N and one EOYT vs two EOYT, two 3N and a RWC.
And Aussie in one of their best ever cycles.
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Admiting that they didn;t get it right, basically.
@Machpants Interesting the WC Review hasn't been completed so had no impact on Fosters appointment. Would be funny if the review points the finger at him not doing enough lol.
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Can anyone recall an AB coach unwanted as universally as Foster? Deans/Wylie/Hart was all provincial bullshit, Mitchell was wasn't hated until well into the journey.
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Can anyone recall an AB coach unwanted as universally as Foster? Deans/Wylie/Hart was all provincial bullshit, Mitchell was wasn't hated until well into the journey.
@Crazy-Horse guess he can only exceed expectations...surely?
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Can anyone recall an AB coach unwanted as universally as Foster? Deans/Wylie/Hart was all provincial bullshit, Mitchell was wasn't hated until well into the journey.
