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Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    “Good head on his shoulders”
    “Good role player”
    “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
    “Not a point of difference”
    “Is he the best in his position?”
    “Loved by his super rugby team”
    “Hard working”

    Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

    “Good head on his shoulders”
    “Good role player”
    “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
    “Not a point of difference”
    “Is he the best in his position?”
    “Loved by his super rugby team”
    “Hard working”

    Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

    People notice Cane, so no.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

      “Good head on his shoulders”
      “Good role player”
      “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
      “Not a point of difference”
      “Is he the best in his position?”
      “Loved by his super rugby team”
      “Hard working”

      Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

      People notice Cane, so no.

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      @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

      @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

      “Good head on his shoulders”
      “Good role player”
      “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
      “Not a point of difference”
      “Is he the best in his position?”
      “Loved by his super rugby team”
      “Hard working”

      Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

      People notice Cane, so no.

      Retired since 2007 and still so maligned. Him and Caleb Ralph need to form some sort of support group.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

        “Good head on his shoulders”
        “Good role player”
        “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
        “Not a point of difference”
        “Is he the best in his position?”
        “Loved by his super rugby team”
        “Hard working”

        Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

        People notice Cane, so no.

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        @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

        @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

        “Good head on his shoulders”
        “Good role player”
        “Not the standout that international team fans want but they respect”
        “Not a point of difference”
        “Is he the best in his position?”
        “Loved by his super rugby team”
        “Hard working”

        Wow, has Reuben Thorne just been appointed captain...

        People notice Cane, so no.

        Who?

        I notice the 6’11 Ardie Savea more than Cane.

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        • BonesB Online
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          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thoughts-from-the-new-all-blacks-captain-why-sam-cane-frustrates-coach-ian-foster/

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          • BonesB Bones

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thoughts-from-the-new-all-blacks-captain-why-sam-cane-frustrates-coach-ian-foster/

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            @Bones said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/thoughts-from-the-new-all-blacks-captain-why-sam-cane-frustrates-coach-ian-foster/

            That was a good read.

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121498396/national-portrait-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane-and-the-rural-upbringing-that-made-him

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121498396/national-portrait-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane-and-the-rural-upbringing-that-made-him

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                @Bovidae good profile. Solid fella, I think he'll be good as a captain

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                • BonesB Online
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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/sam-whitelock-how-i-heard-i-wouldnt-captain-the-all-blacks/

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                    Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.

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                    • M Machpants

                      Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.

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                      @Machpants said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.

                      Like McCaw?

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @Machpants said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                        Every article 'surprising selection of cane over Whitlock' not one of them mentioning the total shit look of having the AB Captain playing in Japan. Soon as he decided on a playing sabbatical, he can fuck off from being Captain.

                        Like McCaw?

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                        @nzzp note 'playing', having a holiday is not bad. Richie was wise enough to realise playing as AB Captain was a no go

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @sparky said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          Which test was Andrew Hore ABs captain for?

                          It was a club game.

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                          @Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          @sparky said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                          Which test was Andrew Hore ABs captain for?

                          It was a club game.

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                          Mods, can we have a category for "Pithiest Post" in next year's Fernies?

                          Ta.

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            I think Tana's worth only really shone through when he became captain.
                            As you say he was overshadowed by some of the best players ever but was really only a hairs breadth behind them.
                            79 games in black across 4 positions, played well in all of them, Captained a series win against the Lions, scored 37 tries despite having Lomu, Cullen, Wilson, Rok and Howlett on the field with him.
                            Don't forget his defensive work either. Laid down the blueprint for every back to follow in an expectation to not only organise and tackle but to play like a flanker once the tackle was made. No coach came up with that. Tana's tenacity did.
                            It was that second Lions test that was the making of his real legacy though IMO. First PI captain, under the pump from all quarters. Showed everyone, including players to come that an AB jersey is something to stand up for. I don't think it is a stretch to say that his actions and behaviour as an AB captain added a lot to a greater acceptance of the PI population and contribution to NZ. Showed that they aren't just an add on part, but are proud kiwis as well.
                            I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.
                            He is up there easily on my list of all-time favourite ABs and (without working out a list) must easily be in a top 20 AB greats list.
                            One of our best.

                            Oh, and he coached Counties to their first ever Shield 😉

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                            @Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                            I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.

                            His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.

                              His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew wasn't it against South Africa in Dunedin? Came as a surprise to everyone including the crowd

                              Edit: you're right, I was thinking of the first edition of Kapo o pango

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Crucial said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                I will never forget him leading the first ever showing of Kapa O Pango. Passion like I've never seen from an AB captain before.

                                His first leading of the Haka in Paris, 2004 was uber-special.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew I like to think our Haka went up a notch from that point forward. Taking into account Kapa o Pango not long after.
                                That was a special one though.

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Victor-Meldrew wasn't it against South Africa in Dunedin? Came as a surprise to everyone including the crowd

                                    Edit: you're right, I was thinking of the first edition of Kapo o pango

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                                    @nzzp said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew wasn't it against South Africa in Dunedin? Came as a surprise to everyone including the crowd

                                    Edit: you're right, first edition of Kapo o pango

                                    Friend of mine was at the Paris game in '04.

                                    The AB's wore red (poppies) for the first time and the FFR had placed information on the seats about the importance of the haka & about Dave Gallagher and NZ forces in France in WW1 & WW2. They dimmed the lights for the Haka and the crowd went silent

                                    Thinks it is probably the most special haka performance in front of a crowd he has ever seen.

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                                    • westcoastieW westcoastie

                                      @Victor-Meldrew I like to think our Haka went up a notch from that point forward. Taking into account Kapa o Pango not long after.
                                      That was a special one though.

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                                      @westcoastie said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew I like to think our Haka went up a notch from that point forward. Taking into account Kapa o Pango not long after.
                                      That was a special one though.

                                      Definitely.

                                      Tana was one of the AB legends- no nonsense, no whining, play the best you can, have a great smile when you win or lose, love having a beer with the opposition.

                                      Smart bloke too.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @westcoastie said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew I like to think our Haka went up a notch from that point forward. Taking into account Kapa o Pango not long after.
                                        That was a special one though.

                                        Definitely.

                                        Tana was one of the AB legends- no nonsense, no whining, play the best you can, have a great smile when you win or lose, love having a beer with the opposition.

                                        Smart bloke too.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                        Smart bloke too.

                                        Grew into that. I watched him as a talented but rugby dumb 18 or 19 year old playing for Wellington. Talented, but made terrible decisions in and off the field.

                                        Must have been in 1996, and it was in that off season he got serious about fitness, and the rest is history.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          Smart bloke too.

                                          Grew into that. I watched him as a talented but rugby dumb 18 or 19 year old playing for Wellington. Talented, but made terrible decisions in and off the field.

                                          Must have been in 1996, and it was in that off season he got serious about fitness, and the rest is history.

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                                          @nzzp said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          Smart bloke too.

                                          Grew into that. I watched him as a talented but rugby dumb 18 or 19 year old playing for Wellington. Talented, but made terrible decisions in and off the field.

                                          Must have been in 1996, and it was in that off season he got serious about fitness, and the rest is history.

                                          Anyone who comes up with the idea of breaking up a bar-fight with a handbag certainly isn't lacking in the decision-making department....

                                          Like Umaga, Sam Cane has that serious, focussed, but calm look when things are getting tough. Think he'll be a safe pair of hands.

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