Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain
-
So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
@scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
No Aaron Smith?
-
@scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
No Aaron Smith?
-
@canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.
-
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
-
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
His non-selection wasn't the dumbest thing we did on the field that day
Not by a long chalk.
-
@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
I still think we gave England far too easy a ride in the first 5-10 minutes. Cane's physical presence would have blunted England's attack and stopped them getting on the front foot so early.
-
Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.
@akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.
I guess you haven't heard about that day Joe put on a black v-neck and proceeded to accidentally run over his neighbours cat, dropped his lunch on the floor (carpet) on the way out to the deck and then to top it all off had a sloppy shit where half of it sprayed on that top ledge bit of the bowl. Bought an instant kiwi that was a dud too.
-
List of captains for the ABs
http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/list_of_captains.html?id=8;type=team
List from Fitzy on, with number of captained matches in brackets
Fitz (51)
Henderson (1)
Marshall (4)
Randell (22)
Blackadder (10 - honestly thought it was more)
Oliver (10)
Thorne (23)
Umaga (21)
McCaw (110)
Collins J (3)
So'oialo (5)
Mealamu (3)
Muliana (3)
Hore (1)
Read (52)
Cane (3)
Smith B (1)
Whitelock S (6)
Whitelock L (1) -
Let’s hope he can get back to his best. Foster has already said he wants him and Ardie on the park at the same time so I guess it means Ardie to 8.
-
@Canes4life Ardie is not an 8 or even a 6. We need more size at these positions.
-
Don’t have a problem with it with what’s available.
Now, if only we had some games to see how it goes .
-
@broughie that's what I reckon too. If Sam is starting then Ardie is on the bench. It's pretty disappointing if Ardie is considered the best starting 8 (or 6) in NZ. He's just too small.
-
Pretty good start Fossie.
@MajorRage said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pretty good start Fossie.
Or a continuation of his old Chiefs selection strategy? Waikato stacking?
-
Best bet for me is 6. Big mofo like Grace or Sotutu 7. Cane 8. Savea (he's a better 8 than 6 as he can use his speed off the back of the scrum here).
-
I think he has been given the job with an eye to him being the right man to transition to a new regime. Whitelock carries to look of the last setup and is probably also carrying some 'blame' of not leading by example in the semi.
If there is a desire to get some new blood and a tougher forward edge then Cane is the man who will hit hard and set the tone.
