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Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain

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    @mariner4life said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

    @nzzp considering the last meaningful game they played they got absolutely humped, is it really pessimism?

    Nah. You're ignoring us destroying Ireland, and beating a very very good SA side.

    I think that the squad will be better this year, BBBR aside (and actually he wasn't great in the RWC).
    Read was on his last legs. BSmith was cooked. Crotty was made of glass.

    By comparison, who do SA lose from their squad? @SidBarret may have an opinon here, but they're not going to have their northern stars, who were super influential I think.

    a quick google gives me this - 7 were playing NH rugby, and I think others have retired or moved north. I haven't kept up to date, but looks bigger losses than us (Kolbe, Faf, Louw, Mostert, leRoux in particular).

    Forwards (17)

    Schalk Brits (Bulls), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (captain, Stormers), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Lions), RG Snyman (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)

    Backs (14)

    Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Warrick Gelant (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), S'bu Nkosi (Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handre Pollard (Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)

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    @nzzp Just wondering why SA wouldn't have their Northern Hemisphere stars to pick from? Have they changed their selection policy or are you basing this on the potential impact of Covid?

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      I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

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        @nzzp Just wondering why SA wouldn't have their Northern Hemisphere stars to pick from? Have they changed their selection policy or are you basing this on the potential impact of Covid?

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        @akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

        @nzzp Just wondering why SA wouldn't have their Northern Hemisphere starts to pick from? Have they changed their selection policy or are you basing this on the potential impact of Covid?

        I may be wrong, but my understanding was that both SA and Aus selected a bunch of players out of the NH specifically for the RWC.

        If they don't you run into seasonal issues; travel, conditioning, etc. But hey - you coudl be right; we may get those players selected again soon. Great for international rugby, not so good for the players, terrible for clubs

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          I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

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          @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

          I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

          What is the mood there?

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            @akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            @nzzp Just wondering why SA wouldn't have their Northern Hemisphere starts to pick from? Have they changed their selection policy or are you basing this on the potential impact of Covid?

            I may be wrong, but my understanding was that both SA and Aus selected a bunch of players out of the NH specifically for the RWC.

            If they don't you run into seasonal issues; travel, conditioning, etc. But hey - you coudl be right; we may get those players selected again soon. Great for international rugby, not so good for the players, terrible for clubs

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            @nzzp said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            @akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            @nzzp Just wondering why SA wouldn't have their Northern Hemisphere starts to pick from? Have they changed their selection policy or are you basing this on the potential impact of Covid?

            I may be wrong, but my understanding was that both SA and Aus selected a bunch of players out of the NH specifically for the RWC.

            If they don't you run into seasonal issues; travel, conditioning, etc. But hey - you coudl be right; we may get those players selected again soon. Great for international rugby, not so good for the players, terrible for clubs

            Australia didn't, but are reviewing the Giteau rule (lower caps minimum or get rid), SA got rid of the no overseas limit totally.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

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              @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

              I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

              Yeah I read a few as well.

              Cieran Reid was a much better captain than Sam Kane will ever be apparently.......

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                @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

                Yeah I read a few as well.

                Cieran Reid was a much better captain than Sam Kane will ever be apparently.......

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                @MN5 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                Cieran Reid was a much better captain than Sam Kane will ever be apparently.......

                Isn't Kane a black cap?

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                  @MN5 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  Cieran Reid was a much better captain than Sam Kane will ever be apparently.......

                  Isn't Kane a black cap?

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                  @nzzp said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  @MN5 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  Cieran Reid was a much better captain than Sam Kane will ever be apparently.......

                  Isn't Kane a black cap?

                  Indeed he is but I'm deeply offended at the 25% correct spelling rate of this All Black fan......

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                    @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                    I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

                    What is the mood there?

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                    @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                    @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                    I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

                    What is the mood there?

                    Mostly supportive, but too may complaining that he's not the best flanker we have, that he's not smart enough to be captain. Then there's those upset that despite no rugby at the moment, they've decided to announce him as captain.

                    Just too many retards.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

                      What is the mood there?

                      Mostly supportive, but too may complaining that he's not the best flanker we have, that he's not smart enough to be captain. Then there's those upset that despite no rugby at the moment, they've decided to announce him as captain.

                      Just too many retards.

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                      @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      @antipodean said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                      I made the mistake of reading comments on the All Blacks Facebook announcement. Anyone labouring under the belief New Zealanders are knowledgeable about rugby should read those. We're geniuses in comparison.

                      What is the mood there?

                      Mostly supportive, but too may complaining that he's not the best flanker we have, that he's not smart enough to be captain. Then there's those upset that despite no rugby at the moment, they've decided to announce him as captain.

                      Just too many retards.

                      I'll give that a wide berth then

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                        Another reminder why I avoid FB.

                        I assume Richard Knowler had to rewrite his latest article last night.

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                          Really sucks we don't have any AB rugby to look forward to right now.

                          Cane is a good choice, I've always favoured him over Whitelock. He has a bit of McCaw about him with his sheer determination that would inspire the others.

                          On Ardie - I really like him at 8 and would be happy with 6. Big Bopper / 7. Cane / 8. Ardie.

                          I actually think Ardie will go better at 8 than Read did for his last couple of seasons. He's explosive with ball in hand and can play a wider game there while our 6/7 keep it tight - that worked perfectly when Read was in his prime.

                          I don't think he should play 6 and he should never in a thousand years have started at 7 over Cane against a team whose only fucking plan of attack was to beat us up in the forwards. Jesus Christ that was some braindead shit from the coaches.

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                            Another reminder why I avoid FB.

                            I assume Richard Knowler had to rewrite his latest article last night.

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                            @Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                            Another reminder why I avoid FB.

                            I assume Richard Knowler had to rewrite his latest article last night.

                            And Hamish Bidwell is going to lose his shit ...

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                              @Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              Another reminder why I avoid FB.

                              I assume Richard Knowler had to rewrite his latest article last night.

                              And Hamish Bidwell is going to lose his shit ...

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                              @Marty said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              @Bovidae said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                              Another reminder why I avoid FB.

                              I assume Richard Knowler had to rewrite his latest article last night.

                              And Hamish Bidwell is going to lose his shit ...

                              Excellent!

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                                Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

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                                  Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                  Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

                                  sicko!

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                                    A team hasn’t been named for the first AB test and there’s already too many Chiefs

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                                      Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

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                                      @Billy-Tell said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                      Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

                                      I'm busy and Jacinda won't let me go to Cairns, so ask your friend to do it.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        A team hasn’t been named for the first AB test and there’s already too many Chiefs

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                        there’s already too many Chiefs

                                        We really need a team called the "Indians".

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Billy-Tell said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

                                          sicko!

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                                          @mariner4life said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          @Billy-Tell said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          Has anyone got a live stream link to mariner4life being crucified? Asking for a friend.

                                          sicko!

                                          See this is the problem with modern life and technology. Facing his hour of reckoning, our erstwhile hero is still posting online from the wooden apparatus he's attached to. No doubt keeping instagram up to date too.

                                          TBH I was looking forward to seeing if the angry mob is baying. But there are only 10 people and the're wearing masks and standing 2 m apart. All a bit of a letdown really.

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