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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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    Heres my team for Bled #1
    Moody
    Taylor
    Laulala
    Sam W
    Tuipulotu
    Frizzel
    Cane
    Savea
    A.Smith
    Beaudy
    Clarke
    ALB
    Ioane
    Bridges
    J Barrett

    Aumua
    Karl T
    Ofa T
    Vaa'i
    Sotutu
    TJP
    Mo'unga
    Jordan

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

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        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

        Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

          damn right. Tests are won up front. Token back replacements are rarely required. B Barrett is there for impact with his pace later on.

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          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          @mariner4life is Mauger with the 6:2 split.

          damn right. Tests are won up front. Token back replacements are rarely required. B Barrett is there for impact with his pace later on.

          This is why Ioane and the good Barretts make such a difference to out match day squad - we've basically got every position in the backline covered twice over. It's a really good place to be.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

            yes. repeatedly. for 80 minutes.

            the quick guys out wide will feed off that. bliss.

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            @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @booboo said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

            @mariner4life 6 forward bench. Looking to bash them?

            yes. repeatedly. for 80 minutes.

            the quick guys out wide will feed off that. bliss.

            I'd be happy to see this. I've kinda gotten bored of playing the Wallabies at the adult equivalent of ripper rugby. I don't think it's served either country well when playing other opposition.

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              @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

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              Hey mods can we please introduce the downvote function?

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              • juniorJ junior

                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

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                @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                  Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                  He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                  Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                  He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                  He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

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                    @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

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                    Hey mods can we please introduce the downvote function?

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                    @NTA i expect if we had the downvote enabled, some posters would crash the software....

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                    • juniorJ junior

                      @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                      Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                      He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                      He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

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                      @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                      I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                      Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                      He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                      He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

                      It must be remembered Sotutu was essentially a Super Rugby rookie this year (he played all of about 10 minutes last year) - there is plenty of room for development and growth in his game - obviously he's developed a hell of a lot in the last 12 months.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                        I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                        Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                        He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                        He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

                        It must be remembered Sotutu was essentially a Super Rugby rookie this year (he played all of about 10 minutes last year) - there is plenty of room for development and growth in his game - obviously he's developed a hell of a lot in the last 12 months.

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                        @KiwiMurph I think you're searching pretty hard if you see issues with his ball control at the back of the scrum, certainly not something I'd noticed when he was constantly making ridiculous metres or spot on passes. How would Rennie target that anyway?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

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                          @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          Surprised that anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would want Laulala to start. Must be keen on jogging into contact and missing tackles.

                          I'm surprised anyone who watched the last two years of rugby would still bang on about Beauden's pace and game breaking ability.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @KiwiMurph I think you're searching pretty hard if you see issues with his ball control at the back of the scrum, certainly not something I'd noticed when he was constantly making ridiculous metres or spot on passes. How would Rennie target that anyway?

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                            @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @KiwiMurph I think you're searching pretty hard if you see issues with his ball control at the back of the scrum, certainly not something I'd noticed when he was constantly making ridiculous metres or spot on passes. How would Rennie target that anyway?

                            He's been reasonably tidy this year. He did have a poor game at the base of the scrum vs Wellington. Which was the last game of rugby he played

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Bones said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              @KiwiMurph I think you're searching pretty hard if you see issues with his ball control at the back of the scrum, certainly not something I'd noticed when he was constantly making ridiculous metres or spot on passes. How would Rennie target that anyway?

                              He's been reasonably tidy this year. He did have a poor game at the base of the scrum vs Wellington. Which was the last game of rugby he played

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                              @Duluth ahhh ok, I didn't notice while I was dancing around the living room.

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                                If I was Foster (but I am not), I would take Hogdman on the bench instead of Karl T who has been in poor form lately. He has stepped up in the scrums and has a big work rate.

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                                  If I was Foster (but I am not), I would take Hogdman on the bench instead of Karl T who has been in poor form lately. He has stepped up in the scrums and has a big work rate.

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                                  @cgrant said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                  If I was Foster (but I am not),

                                  Thanks for clarifying.

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                                    Got a bit excited about a match squad being announced tomorrow.

                                    Then realised it's a Sunday game 🙁

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @cgrant said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      If I was Foster (but I am not),

                                      Thanks for clarifying.

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                                      @Bones You on the rag again?

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                                        @Bones You on the rag again?

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                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @Bones You on the rag again?

                                        Nah! I thought we were posting up surprises.

                                        Quite a few people talking about '20 Beauden as though he's 16/17 Beauden.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                                          Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                                          He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                                          He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

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                                          @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                                          Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                                          He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                                          He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

                                          @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @junior said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          I can see the value in starting Ardie at 8 for the first game given its a Bledisloe. Sotutu still has work to do on his skills at the boot of the scrum - I could see Rennie seriously targeting him there.

                                          Are you seriously suggesting that it makes sense to pick a specialist 7 at 8 because you're concerned about our specialist 8's control at the back of the scrum?!

                                          He's not a specialist 7 - he's started a heap of games at 8.

                                          He's certainly less of a specialist 8 than the guy who you say doesn't have enough control at the back of the scrum

                                          Ardie has probably had more first class, above NPC, games at 8 than Sotutu. Along with ABs games where he has played 6 but packed at 8 on offensive scrums.

                                          Not that that is a big problem, but Ardie is far more experienced in the 8 rules than a first year rookie.

                                          However Ardie will play 8, reading between the lines of the coaches interviews. Not too many changes first test

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