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Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @booboo

    It was as blatant as it gets on replay

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    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @booboo

    It was as blatant as it gets on replay

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    Its genuinely one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on a rugby field

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @booboo

      It was as blatant as it gets on replay

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      @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

      @booboo

      It was as blatant as it gets on replay

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      I didn't like the TMO interfering. I don't think he is allowed to look at foul play, only dangerous play and tries.

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      • voodooV voodoo

        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

        @booboo

        It was as blatant as it gets on replay

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        Its genuinely one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on a rugby field

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        @voodoo said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

        @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

        @booboo

        It was as blatant as it gets on replay

        alt text

        Its genuinely one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on a rugby field

        Like what is the thinking eh...oh I'm on the ground with the ref looking directly at this open ruck but it's crucial this ball doesn't go out.

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          The ABs scrum inviolability on their own feed is now over after 25 games. Lomax's back pedaling against a youngster was not a good vision. Maybe having Aumua (1.79 m) between Hodgman (1.94) and Lomax (1.93) was altering the front row cohesion ?

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

            so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

            @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

            so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

            At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

            Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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            • P pakman

              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

              so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

              At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

              Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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              @pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

              Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

              Yellow card was introduced to punish professional foul.

              This was the definition of professional foul.

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              • P pakman

                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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                @pakman you also see it once everything so often, this is the first time that I've seen it brought up by the TMO, and resulting in a card. It's a penalty only, the abs weren't on a warning. Richie got one, but that was a trip from the ground. But ball slaps not that rare, never seen a card for it

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                • P pakman

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                  so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                  At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                  Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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                  @pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                  @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                  so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                  At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                  Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

                  Fuck that. Cynical cheating should be stamped on hard. People misjudging the offside line / coming up too quick, hands in ruck a second too long are judgement errors. What SB did was not a mistake, it was deliberate, so fuck him and the whores he rode in on.

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                  • C cgrant

                    The ABs scrum inviolability on their own feed is now over after 25 games. Lomax's back pedaling against a youngster was not a good vision. Maybe having Aumua (1.79 m) between Hodgman (1.94) and Lomax (1.93) was altering the front row cohesion ?

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                    @cgrant said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                    The ABs scrum inviolability on their own feed is now over after 25 games. Lomax's back pedaling against a youngster was not a good vision. Maybe having Aumua (1.79 m) between Hodgman (1.94) and Lomax (1.93) was altering the front row cohesion ?

                    Surely the first time that word has been used on the Fern. Nice.

                    There’s going to be some teething issues with some of these young front rowers.

                    Has to be one of the most inexperienced front rows to finish a test match against the Wallabies.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @pakman you also see it once everything so often, this is the first time that I've seen it brought up by the TMO, and resulting in a card. It's a penalty only, the abs weren't on a warning. Richie got one, but that was a trip from the ground. But ball slaps not that rare, never seen a card for it

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                      @Machpants warning is irrelevant. Referee can opt to hand out a yellow at his discretion if the situation warrants it.

                      Player off his feet, at a ruck, offaide to boot, obstructing legal play. Against the spirit of the game if you like.

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                        Also: Scott Barrett. Fuck 'im.

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                        • P pakman

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                          so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                          At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                          Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                          @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                          so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                          At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                          Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

                          Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it

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                            @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                            @booboo

                            It was as blatant as it gets on replay

                            alt text

                            I didn't like the TMO interfering. I don't think he is allowed to look at foul play, only dangerous play and tries.

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                            Derpus
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                            @akan004 TMO said it was a knock on initially. Took an actual look at the incident from Berry

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                              @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                              so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                              At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                              Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

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                              Derpus
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                              @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

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                                @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

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                                @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

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                                • chimoausC chimoaus

                                  @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                  Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

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                                  @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                  @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                  Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

                                  It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                    Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

                                    It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got

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                                    @canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                    @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                    Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

                                    It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got

                                    Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.

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                                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                                      @canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                      Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

                                      It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got

                                      Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.

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                                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @canefan said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @Derpus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                      @pakman Absurd until it happens at every attacking ruck in a 22.

                                      Didn't Whitelock get away with it at the death of a super game that basically won the Crusaders the game?

                                      It's only cheating if you get caught. SB's one was so obvious, deserved what he got

                                      Perhaps the Goat could come in as a consultant on these dark arts you speak of.

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                                        Just out of interest is it a knock on if the opposition player strips it from you? It happens a lot in today's game where the defender interferes with the attackers hands/arms/ball to cause a knock on. Sometimes there is no effort to tackle the player at all or to actually take possession of the ball.

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                                          so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                                          At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                                          Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

                                          Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @pakman said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

                                          @kiwiinmelb i'd like to see everything short of deliberate foul play or punches dialled back a step,

                                          so like scrums and single off sides kind of stuff is a free kick (repeated becomes a penalty), poor form or accidents become penalties and then leave the cards for the really grievous stuff

                                          At the risk of starting World War 2, and whilst I understand the rules mandate it, but there being an automatic yellow card for what Scott Barrett did seems to me absurd.

                                          Neither dangerous, nor thwarting a try, just stupid. A penalty in that situation is an entirely sufficient sanction.

                                          Nah, straight up deliberate fouls probably deserve it

                                          There's a big difference between your opinion of deserved, and what is normal. I like yellows for this sort of thing, but this is the first I have seen one for it. Imo it was an incorrect decision, it was not consistent with all those that have gone before.

                                          He's an idiot and it should be a yellow, imo, same as accidental high shot should be an orange card (10 mins off, someone else comes back). But shouldn't have happened in this game, not until guidance is changed and communicated with teams.

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