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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

    What a load of BS.

    Clearly the players weren't listening

    Would you listen to him?
    Just saying.

    Listen? I didn't even want him!

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    @canefan No, neither did I. It must be pretty tough for the players when he is "coaching". I guess that it is obvious that my Respect for him is, umm, limited.

    I'm sure he is a great guy but he is there to get good results (and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing). We see them too. We watch them. We analyse them from NPC to Super to AB. The talent is there. The mindset is not. Whether that be confidence, or gameplan - that lands on one person's head.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @canefan No, neither did I. It must be pretty tough for the players when he is "coaching". I guess that it is obvious that my Respect for him is, umm, limited.

      I'm sure he is a great guy but he is there to get good results (and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing). We see them too. We watch them. We analyse them from NPC to Super to AB. The talent is there. The mindset is not. Whether that be confidence, or gameplan - that lands on one person's head.

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      taniwharugby
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      @Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing

      yeah I dont either.

      There is def a disconnect between whatever Fozzie has planned and what we are executing (or not executing)

      Be nice to see something a bit different, even if we were scoring bucket loads of tries and conceding loads (the Chiefs way under Fozzie) but we seem to just be seeing more of what we have for the past 3 years

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      • TimT Away
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        Has it been mentioned that last week's AB team was better than this week's?

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        • TimT Tim

          Has it been mentioned that last week's AB team was better than this week's?

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          #1144

          @Tim think they were both a bit average TBH...but for different reasons

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          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

            @Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            Argentina on the other hand have had months of build up for this one game, to beat a team they have never beaten and a clear game plan to train for.

            Wait, Argies don't have family? If I was an AB I'd be training to beat a team we'd never lost to.

            The interesting thing with all this COVID hubs/bubbles or whatever you want to call it for teams away from home ,

            In the AFL and nrl , teams that won the comp had been away from home for months and even the warriors seemed to form a brotherhood bond that won them respect , it almost seems some sides were able to tap into something and use it to their advantage when they hit the field even if there was some homesick stuff going on off the field .

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            @kiwiinmelb said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            Argentina on the other hand have had months of build up for this one game, to beat a team they have never beaten and a clear game plan to train for.

            Wait, Argies don't have family? If I was an AB I'd be training to beat a team we'd never lost to.

            The interesting thing with all this COVID hubs/bubbles or whatever you want to call it for teams away from home ,

            In the AFL and nrl , teams that won the comp had been away from home for months and even the warriors seemed to form a brotherhood bond that won them respect , it almost seems some sides were able to tap into something and use it to their advantage when they hit the field even if there was some homesick stuff going on off the field .

            And some didn’t, see North Melbourne, Demons, Bombers, Hawthorn..

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @junior ah ok, well guess same question applies to Evans.

              Although uncle Google says he's been there and still there...

              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/from-orphan-upbringing-to-secret-behind-all-blacks-success-gilbert-enoka-reflects-on-meteoric-rise-during-covid-19-lockdown.amp.html

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              @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @junior ah ok, well guess same question applies to Evans.

              Although uncle Google says he's been there and still there...

              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/04/from-orphan-upbringing-to-secret-behind-all-blacks-success-gilbert-enoka-reflects-on-meteoric-rise-during-covid-19-lockdown.amp.html

              Enoka seems like a lovely man and appears to have played a significant role in developing the culture in the ABs. I'm less convinced about his ability as a sports psych, because he's been involved for a long time during which we've had some monumental mental breakdowns. To be fair to him, he's also been part of some of our best days, so he deserves at least some credit.

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              • BerniesCornerB Online
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                BerniesCorner
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                #1147

                Dump Sky Sports, dump the helicopters
                Phone Fitzy and McCaw
                Coach and Assistant Coach
                Your country needs you in this hour of need

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                • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                  Dump Sky Sports, dump the helicopters
                  Phone Fitzy and McCaw
                  Coach and Assistant Coach
                  Your country needs you in this hour of need

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                  #1148

                  @BerniesCorner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                  Dump Sky Sports, dump the helicopters
                  Phone Fitzy and McCaw
                  Coach and Assistant Coach
                  Your country needs you in this hour of need

                  Sack the mascot, sack the canteen staff, sack the merchandise kids, get rid of the bright boots and short back and sides for all

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @BerniesCorner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    Dump Sky Sports, dump the helicopters
                    Phone Fitzy and McCaw
                    Coach and Assistant Coach
                    Your country needs you in this hour of need

                    Sack the mascot, sack the canteen staff, sack the merchandise kids, get rid of the bright boots and short back and sides for all

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                    #1149

                    @ACT-Crusader BURN DOWN EDEN PARK

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      @BerniesCorner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      Dump Sky Sports, dump the helicopters
                      Phone Fitzy and McCaw
                      Coach and Assistant Coach
                      Your country needs you in this hour of need

                      Sack the mascot, sack the canteen staff, sack the merchandise kids, get rid of the bright boots and short back and sides for all

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                      taniwharugby
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                      #1150

                      @ACT-Crusader sack the whining fans

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                      • NTAN NTA

                        @ACT-Crusader BURN DOWN EDEN PARK

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                        #1151

                        @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        @ACT-Crusader BURN DOWN EDEN PARK

                        Nice try.

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                        • MN5M Offline
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                          MN5
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                          Put Fozzie on a diet

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                          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                            @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @ACT-Crusader BURN DOWN EDEN PARK

                            Nice try.

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                            @Donsteppa said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @ACT-Crusader BURN DOWN EDEN PARK

                            Nice try.

                            Dammit

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                            • BerniesCornerB Online
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                              About time JB had a turn at 15. Best fb all year.
                              Smith 9 -Mounga 10 -ALB 12 -Beauden 13 -Clarke 11-Ioane 14-Jordie 15

                              So obvious Sotutu is the best 8

                              Just need leader and coach
                              Would Coles f**k about if McCaw was on the paddock?

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                About time JB had a turn at 15. Best fb all year.
                                Smith 9 -Mounga 10 -ALB 12 -Beauden 13 -Clarke 11-Ioane 14-Jordie 15

                                So obvious Sotutu is the best 8

                                Just need leader and coach
                                Would Coles f**k about if McCaw was on the paddock?

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                                @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

                                @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

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                                • BerniesCornerB Online
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                                  He use to play 13 so not technically a Cullen

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

                                    @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

                                    @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

                                    People function better in all aspects of life at a healthy weight. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      @BerniesCorner the fuck?? BB at 13?

                                      @MN5 not sure what relevance Fozzies weight has, seems plenty of people stick the boot in on that aspect, when it has zero reflection on his ability as a coach (doubt he'd be a better coach if he was ripped)

                                      People function better in all aspects of life at a healthy weight. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.

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                                      @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

                                      Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

                                        Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

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                                        #1159

                                        @taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                        @MN5 Given nothing of what he does needs to be made off the cuff where weight and fitness providing clarity of thought while exhausted would be relevant.

                                        Just think it is a wrong to be calling him fat all the time (similarly people called Hansen fat too)

                                        You’re right in that it doesn’t effect his coaching but it just shows gluttony and a lack of self discipline to me. It’s not like he can’t afford healthy food and access to training and diet advice.

                                        I guess our opinions will have to differ.

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                                        • FrankF Frank

                                          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                                          What a load of BS.

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                                          @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

                                          What a load of BS.

                                          Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

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