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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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  • chimoausC chimoaus

    Some interesting stats on that page. This one jumped out, we are twice as likely to get a yellow card compared to our opponent. Either our discipline sucks or refs hate us 😉
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    @chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Some interesting stats on that page. This one jumped out, we are twice as likely to get a yellow card compared to our opponent. Either our discipline sucks or refs hate us 😉

    Data is for last 5 years i.e. Since McCaw retired 🙂

    It isn't that refs hate you as much as it is your subsequent captains have sucked 😉

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    • NTAN NTA

      @antipodean AFG being our best ref is yet another indication that rugby is up shit creek here, at the moment.

      There are a couple of younger guys I've seen in Subbies and Premier footy here in Sydney who look the goods BUT it depends on how the politics play out.

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      @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

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        @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

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        @Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

        BUT THE RID CARDS BRO!!!

        😉

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          @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

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          @Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

          @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

          Damned with faint praise

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          • NTAN NTA

            @Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

            BUT THE RID CARDS BRO!!!

            😉

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            @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.

            BUT THE RID CARDS BRO!!!

            😉

            How about the consistency of law application, excellent stuff there. Maybe they should sit him down with AFG so that you can guess what they're saying to each other? I think you're really good at it after your refs course.

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              Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

              Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

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                Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

                Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

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                @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

                Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

                That was kind of interesting, but I'm resisting joining the Roar just so I can abuse him for calling Super rugby club rugby. Lets see how long I can hold out for.

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                • P pakman

                  Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

                  Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

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                  @pakman Interesting read and analysis on Patty T, also hinting that perhaps the balance of the back row not right either, which has been discussed to death on here.

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                    Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

                    Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

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                    @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/

                    Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.

                    He’s not playing like he was for the Blues that’s for sure.

                    The Savea and Frizzel analysis was pretty damning too. We are playing the wrong people there, Frizzel is just not good enough.

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                      And if Patrick is struggling start the new kid for his athleticism, and have Patrick come on from the bench.

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                        Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

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                          Machpants
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                          Another article, right about Foster's team

                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/21/argentina-wallabies-failures-reveal-all-blacks-attitude-problem-under-ian-foster

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                          • O Old Samurai Jack

                            Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

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                            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

                            I've always fancied him as someone that can provide a lot of punch off the bench. He's done that well a few times. But with our locking stocks so low he's had to be a starter.

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                              Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

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                              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

                              It’s been because of diet apparently. They got his diet (timing of it) right this year and he’s been great.

                              Then he got injured at the end of SRA and hasn’t come back the same, plus illness I guess. Worth persevering with, but maybe from the bench.

                              The alternatives are a rookie or a retard. (tm Duluth)

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                                @Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).

                                It’s been because of diet apparently. They got his diet (timing of it) right this year and he’s been great.

                                Then he got injured at the end of SRA and hasn’t come back the same, plus illness I guess. Worth persevering with, but maybe from the bench.

                                The alternatives are a rookie or a retard. (tm Duluth)

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                                @Kirwan Vaai equipped himself well in his start at Eden Park. Start him again I reckon.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Kirwan Vaai equipped himself well in his start at Eden Park. Start him again I reckon.

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                                  @KiwiMurph He's been one of the very few success stories this season. I'd definitely start him and drop Tuipulotu back to the bench.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    Another article, right about Foster's team

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/21/argentina-wallabies-failures-reveal-all-blacks-attitude-problem-under-ian-foster

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                                    @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    Another article, right about Foster's team

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/21/argentina-wallabies-failures-reveal-all-blacks-attitude-problem-under-ian-foster

                                    Well they certainly don't read the Fern.

                                    "The national calamity – feared, if largely unspoken about, since the underwhelming appointment of Steve Hansen’s former assistant late last year – has become a reality."

                                    I'm actually a bit tired of "speaking about it".

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                                      @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                      Another article, right about Foster's team

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/nov/21/argentina-wallabies-failures-reveal-all-blacks-attitude-problem-under-ian-foster

                                      Well they certainly don't read the Fern.

                                      "The national calamity – feared, if largely unspoken about, since the underwhelming appointment of Steve Hansen’s former assistant late last year – has become a reality."

                                      I'm actually a bit tired of "speaking about it".

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                                      Machpants
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                                      @Snowy unspoken by the media, maybe, until now

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                                        it did say unspoken, not unwritten.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          it did say unspoken, not unwritten.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          it did say unspoken, not unwritten.

                                          An awful lot of people that I know are talking about it. Family, friends, staff. Can barely have a conversation without the topic being raised.

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