Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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@Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.
BUT THE RID CARDS BRO!!!
@NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Derpus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@NTA He looked the goods a few years ago. Berry is better now IMO.
BUT THE RID CARDS BRO!!!
How about the consistency of law application, excellent stuff there. Maybe they should sit him down with AFG so that you can guess what they're saying to each other? I think you're really good at it after your refs course.
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Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
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Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
@pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
That was kind of interesting, but I'm resisting joining the Roar just so I can abuse him for calling Super rugby club rugby. Lets see how long I can hold out for.
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Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
@pakman Interesting read and analysis on Patty T, also hinting that perhaps the balance of the back row not right either, which has been discussed to death on here.
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Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
@pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Take by the Roar: https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/11/20/what-ails-the-all-blacks-marginal-pack-decline/
Was Patty T still recovering from mystery illness? Know Scooter was being 'rested' but if Pa T was he shouldn't have started.
He’s not playing like he was for the Blues that’s for sure.
The Savea and Frizzel analysis was pretty damning too. We are playing the wrong people there, Frizzel is just not good enough.
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Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
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Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
I've always fancied him as someone that can provide a lot of punch off the bench. He's done that well a few times. But with our locking stocks so low he's had to be a starter.
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Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
It’s been because of diet apparently. They got his diet (timing of it) right this year and he’s been great.
Then he got injured at the end of SRA and hasn’t come back the same, plus illness I guess. Worth persevering with, but maybe from the bench.
The alternatives are a rookie or a retard. (tm Duluth)
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Pat T has been given a lot of chances at the international level but he just hasn't fronted for some reason. He has been at the heart of some poor forward shows (Chicago, Sydney...).
It’s been because of diet apparently. They got his diet (timing of it) right this year and he’s been great.
Then he got injured at the end of SRA and hasn’t come back the same, plus illness I guess. Worth persevering with, but maybe from the bench.
The alternatives are a rookie or a retard. (tm Duluth)
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@KiwiMurph He's been one of the very few success stories this season. I'd definitely start him and drop Tuipulotu back to the bench.
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Another article, right about Foster's team
@Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Another article, right about Foster's team
Well they certainly don't read the Fern.
"The national calamity – feared, if largely unspoken about, since the underwhelming appointment of Steve Hansen’s former assistant late last year – has become a reality."
I'm actually a bit tired of "speaking about it".
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@Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Another article, right about Foster's team
Well they certainly don't read the Fern.
"The national calamity – feared, if largely unspoken about, since the underwhelming appointment of Steve Hansen’s former assistant late last year – has become a reality."
I'm actually a bit tired of "speaking about it".
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it did say unspoken, not unwritten.
@nostrildamus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
it did say unspoken, not unwritten.
An awful lot of people that I know are talking about it. Family, friends, staff. Can barely have a conversation without the topic being raised.
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ah well there is only so far even I will go to defend a badly written article.
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@NTA his comment about them shifting the point of attack through the phases rather than one off runners as they usually do, was basically a switch of team tactics, we kept bashing it up one, maybe 2 wide, easily picked off.
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I'm sorry going back to that game last week but the backline was faster without JB, he can't catch a ball in the midfield on the run, because he was not expecting it, what was he there for, late-night security?
We need a more dynamic runner in midfield. We really really do.
Benched far too late, Patty T was there or thereabouts but he so seldom really pushes, where is his go forward? Ok in the lineouts but he just does not seem to use his weight. Even with the pushover try he fell off the back because it was Sotutu and Taylor doing all the work.
Sotutu-has to start, most dominating AB forward. Ardie is out of position and just not big enough or strong enough.
McKenzie looks so fast but I always worry about his ball security.
Why did they not kick behind the Argies earlier? Their backs look far more fragile than their forwards. Oh and Matera was great at the steal but Kremer is a beast. Their hooker was excellent, I was amazed at his fitness considering that belly.
We lost on pivotal 50-50 mistakes, a slip by Smith, bad kicking by Richie, (and BB I think). Our basic skills are perhaps not as solid as we would like to think Shame we could not have used that 70+ minute intensity earlier.
And quite a few cynical neck rolls by the Argies. Never got picked up. But the way they defended, the quality of their tackling wow. We never had that level of dominant tackling and were wrecked at the breakdown. Until Sotutu started. Nope, I still can't understand why Sotutu is not starting. And Frizell tried, but would you have wanted him there or Akira?
Summary: Again a very reactive team performance until it was too late. I still cannot see this magical Foster vision.
