Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November
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@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
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@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
@Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
Yep.
Chances are that Leon will have graduated to the ABs coaching team by then, so there should be some clown in charge ready to play 12 Rieko; 13 Jordie.
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@Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
Yep.
Chances are that Leon will have graduated to the ABs coaching team by then, so there should be some clown in charge ready to play 12 Rieko; 13 Jordie.
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Chances are that Leon will have graduated to the ABs coaching team by then, so there should be some clown in charge ready to play 12 Rieko; 13 Jordie.
His name is Ian and he will probably be looking for a job by then.
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@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
@Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.
With Ioane?
Probably, might as well work on an AB potential pairing
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@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.
It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.
Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.
Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.
So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.
I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.
Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.
@Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace,
Or heads off to Japan
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@Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-UniversesI still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.
It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).
@Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-UniversesI still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.
It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).
North.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Scott Barrett, Akira, Sotutu c
I actually thought SB played well, till he got tired and should have been subbed, but I can't bring myself to watch the game again to get another look.
I'd like to see Akira, Sotutu and a change in winger and coach
@Darren Winger will never change
Oh, you meant the AB squad. As you were!
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@pukunui said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
Sooooo, when is the team named?
yeah! fucking hell, i've got some outrage all saved up to throw at some usual suspects.
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So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
the comp deserves a decider
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@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
the comp deserves a decider
@mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
the comp deserves a decider
not sure we 'deserve' to win eitehr - although in pro sport, there is no 'deserve'
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- Moody
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Tuipolotu
- Whitelock
- Savea
- Cane
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Clarke
- Goodhue
- ALB (rather the other way around tho)
- Reece
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Hodgeman
- Lomax (due to limited options)
- Vaai
- Akira
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Reiko
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- Moody
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Tuipolotu
- Whitelock
- Savea
- Cane
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Clarke
- Goodhue
- ALB (rather the other way around tho)
- Reece
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Hodgeman
- Lomax (due to limited options)
- Vaai
- Akira
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Reiko
I think Frizell gets the chop
TJ has to get dropped for lack of performance otherwise squad culture goes to shit
Jordie hasn’t been bad, but not great so Sevu should get a go.
We need decent tight heads, with Ofa gone we’re clutching at straws
Tuipolotu gets his last chance before getting dropped from the 23 for next year
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- Moody
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Tuipolotu
- Whitelock
- Savea
- Cane
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Clarke
- Goodhue
- ALB (rather the other way around tho)
- Reece
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Hodgeman
- Lomax (due to limited options)
- Vaai
- Akira
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Reiko
@Yeahtheboys said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
- Moody
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Tuipolotu
- Whitelock
- Savea
- Cane
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Clarke
- Goodhue
- ALB (rather the other way around tho)
- Reece
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Hodgeman
- Lomax (due to limited options)
- Vaai
- Akira
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Reiko
Ikira starts if Frizzy is dropped? Shirley?
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@Yeahtheboys said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
- Moody
- Taylor
- Laulala
- Tuipolotu
- Whitelock
- Savea
- Cane
- Sotutu
- Smith
- Mo’unga
- Clarke
- Goodhue
- ALB (rather the other way around tho)
- Reece
- B Barrett
- Coles
- Hodgeman
- Lomax (due to limited options)
- Vaai
- Akira
- Weber
- McKenzie
- Reiko
Ikira starts if Frizzy is dropped? Shirley?
@Hooroo I think Akira would be a bigger impact off the bench than Sotutu, also sotutu seems to shit himself at the end of the game so maybe let him play while pressure is off then take him off for Akira?
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So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
@Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:
So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.
I think another double-digit-margin Argie win with no bonus point would be infinitely more amusing. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:
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- Joe Moody (49)
- Dane Coles (73)
- Nepo Laulala (28)
- Scott Barrett (39)
- Samuel Whitelock (121)
- Akira Ioane (1)
- Sam Cane (73) - captain
- Ardie Savea (48)
- Aaron Smith (96)
- Richie Mo'unga (21)
- Caleb Clarke (4)
- Jack Goodhue (17)
- Anton Lienert-Brown (48)
- Jordie Barrett (22)
- Beauden Barrett (88)
- Codie Taylor (56)
- Karl Tu'inukuafe (16)
- Tyrel Lomax (5)
- Patrick Tuipulotu (34)
- Hoskins Sotutu (4)
- TJ Perenara (68)
- Rieko Ioane (33)
- Will Jordan (1)
