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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

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    @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

    By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

    If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

    Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

    If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

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      @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

      By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

      If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

      Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

      If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

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      @pakman said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @nostrildamus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      @pakman not sure in the tight forwards we have ascendancy..

      By handle, I didn't mean get on top. But starting five of Joe/Codie/Nepo/Sam/Brodie will hold their own.

      If they have PSDT and Thor back we may be under pressure a bit in loose forwards, albeit ours are faster.

      Their inside backs are less dangerous than Wallabies.

      If we can get some fast ball, I'd expect us to score some fives, whereas they'll be looking for threes, with maybe a maul try thrown in.

      Yes could be, and much depends on their 9, I'd say a maul try attempt would be highly likely.

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        https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1424535855117398025

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          Springboks squad for the Rugby Championship:

          Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe, Ox Nché, Trevor Nyakane.

          Hookers: Joseph Dweba, Johan Grobbelaar, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi.

          Locks: Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, RG Snyman.

          Loose forwards: Siya Kolisi, Kwagga Smith, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Jasper Wiese, Dan du Preez.

          Utility forward: Rynhardt Elstadt.

          Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, Jaden Henrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach.

          Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Handré Pollard, Morné Steyn.

          Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Jesse Kriel.

          Outside Backs: Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Makazole Mapimpi, Sbu Nkosi, Rosko Specman.

          Utility backs: Damian Willemse, Frans Steyn.


          Media release: https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2021/08/08/boks-switch-focus-to-rugby-championship/

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            Springboks squad for the Rugby Championship:

            Props: Thomas du Toit, Steven Kitshoff, Vincent Koch, Wilco Louw, Frans Malherbe, Ox Nché, Trevor Nyakane.

            Hookers: Joseph Dweba, Johan Grobbelaar, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi.

            Locks: Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, Franco Mostert, Marvin Orie, RG Snyman.

            Loose forwards: Siya Kolisi, Kwagga Smith, Marco van Staden, Duane Vermeulen, Jasper Wiese, Dan du Preez.

            Utility forward: Rynhardt Elstadt.

            Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk, Jaden Henrikse, Herschel Jantjies, Cobus Reinach.

            Flyhalves: Elton Jantjies, Handré Pollard, Morné Steyn.

            Midfielders: Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Jesse Kriel.

            Outside Backs: Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Willie le Roux, Makazole Mapimpi, Sbu Nkosi, Rosko Specman.

            Utility backs: Damian Willemse, Frans Steyn.


            Media release: https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2021/08/08/boks-switch-focus-to-rugby-championship/

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            @stargazer No pieter steph du toit?

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              @stargazer No pieter steph du toit?

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              @toddy injured
              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/pieter-steph-du-toit-not-included-in-springboks-42-man-rc-squad/

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                Springbok team made 10 changes for Saturdays Puma test

                Springbok team: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Aphelele Fassi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Siya Kolisi (capt), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Wilco Louw (Harlequins, England), 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Ox Nche

                Substitutes: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Dan du Preez, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Morne Steyn

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                  One hundred years today since the first test, and the hundredth test coming up - Foster's follies Vs world champion world number 1 lion tamers

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                    Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                    ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                      Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                      ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                      @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                      ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                      So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                        So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                        @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                        So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

                        Answered before, there are no places for the Boks and Arg to come in here in MIQ. They've already got places booked, for months, in Oz. In addition, like last year even if there were places here, the MIQ requirements are much stricter in NZ. In Oz they can train as a team from Day 1.

                        EDIT: Originaly the idea was they'd both MIQ in OZ, training from Day 1, then they could use the buuble to travel to NZ.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                          ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                          So why is TRC being played in Perth, when Oz has a much higher threat of a covid outbreak there right now? (considering they currently have an outbreak in the country) Wouldn't it have made more sense to stage it in NZ?

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                          @canefan Perth well WA currently has a 7 day average of zero and they've just implemented special rules for boats attempting to visit.

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                            Wonder who will be left at home? Assume 30 or so will travel to Perth.

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                              Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                              ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

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                              @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                              ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                              Whole thing should be in New Zealand, but perhaps they can sell more tickets in Perth?

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                                We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in

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                                  We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in

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                                  @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in as there is no way anybody will be able to work at the airport / fly a plane to get them out

                                  FIFY

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                                    @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in as there is no way anybody will be able to work at the airport / fly a plane to get them out

                                    FIFY

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                                    @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in as there is no way anybody will be able to work at the airport / fly a plane to get them out

                                    FIFY

                                    Nope airport staff are essential workers

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                                      @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in as there is no way anybody will be able to work at the airport / fly a plane to get them out

                                      FIFY

                                      Nope airport staff are essential workers

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                                      @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @majorrage said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      We better hope the ABs already left, or there is no way the God King of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Western Australia is letting them in as there is no way anybody will be able to work at the airport / fly a plane to get them out

                                      FIFY

                                      Nope airport staff are essential workers

                                      for now ...

                                      ( I was taking the piss, but sarcasm really doesn't write well)

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                        Whole thing should be in New Zealand, but perhaps they can sell more tickets in Perth?

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                                        @sparky said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        Rennie reckons the entire rest of the RC will need in Perth, aside from SA v Argentina.
                                        ABs will drip feed in extra numbers, makes sense. No one has opted out of tour yet.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/bledisloe-cup-rugby-all-blacks-to-leave-some-players-at-home-next-week/4VEA47JX7PEF7QUSLC6L6S3L4Q/

                                        Whole thing should be in New Zealand, but perhaps they can sell more tickets in Perth?

                                        I wonder. I'm tempted to question whether the SA rugby contingent in Perth is over-estimated, but there could be quite a few ex-Kiwis and FIFOs (not sure what they are called now, Quarantine Ins, Quarantine Outs?) keen to show there are no lockdowns in WA..

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                                          Pack everything up. Last one out turn off the lights.

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