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  • BonesB Bones

    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @machpants well fucken take it up with Tim! I have no idea why you are having a go at me about it, that's just weird.

    And I think saying Ardie single handedly won us games and no one else could ever do that means you're lost in the fog of heart mate.

    I wasn't having a go at you, I was replying to your post at me saying ABs don't choose teams. Maybe I should've tagged Tim in that reply?

    Well yeah since it was only a reply to me that might have made sense huh ..

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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @machpants well fucken take it up with Tim! I have no idea why you are having a go at me about it, that's just weird.

    And I think saying Ardie single handedly won us games and no one else could ever do that means you're lost in the fog of heart mate.

    I wasn't having a go at you, I was replying to your post at me saying ABs don't choose teams. Maybe I should've tagged Tim in that reply?

    Well yeah since it was only a reply to me that might have made sense huh ..

    I just thought you could keep up with the conversation 😛

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      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @machpants well fucken take it up with Tim! I have no idea why you are having a go at me about it, that's just weird.

      And I think saying Ardie single handedly won us games and no one else could ever do that means you're lost in the fog of heart mate.

      I wasn't having a go at you, I was replying to your post at me saying ABs don't choose teams. Maybe I should've tagged Tim in that reply?

      Well yeah since it was only a reply to me that might have made sense huh ..

      I just thought you could keep up with the conversation 😛

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      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @machpants well fucken take it up with Tim! I have no idea why you are having a go at me about it, that's just weird.

      And I think saying Ardie single handedly won us games and no one else could ever do that means you're lost in the fog of heart mate.

      I wasn't having a go at you, I was replying to your post at me saying ABs don't choose teams. Maybe I should've tagged Tim in that reply?

      Well yeah since it was only a reply to me that might have made sense huh ..

      I just thought you could keep up with the conversation 😛

      Oh you're new here?

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      • BonesB Online
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        ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

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        • M Machpants

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

          With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.

          Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.

          At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.

          I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games

          No big games for a while tho, first 3 aren't

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          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

          With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.

          Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.

          At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.

          I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games

          No big games for a while tho, first 3 aren't

          Good chance for Foster to notch up another historic loss

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            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

            Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

            Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

            Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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            • pukunuiP pukunui
              1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

              Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

              One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
              Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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              #781

              @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

              1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

                1. Hogman

                2. Taylor

                3. Laulala

                4. Whitelock

                5. Vaii

                6. Robinson/Blackadder

                7. Papalii

                8. Sotutu

                9. Smith

                10. Moanga

                11. Fianganuku

                12. Havili

                13. Lenert-Brown

                14. Jordan

                15. J Barrett

                16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

                17. Aumua

                18. Tuangafasi

                19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

                20. A Savea

                21. Webber

                22. DMac

                23. Reece

                A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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                • M Mackerzzzz

                  Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

                  1. Hogman

                  2. Taylor

                  3. Laulala

                  4. Whitelock

                  5. Vaii

                  6. Robinson/Blackadder

                  7. Papalii

                  8. Sotutu

                  9. Smith

                  10. Moanga

                  11. Fianganuku

                  12. Havili

                  13. Lenert-Brown

                  14. Jordan

                  15. J Barrett

                  16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

                  17. Aumua

                  18. Tuangafasi

                  19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

                  20. A Savea

                  21. Webber

                  22. DMac

                  23. Reece

                  A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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                  @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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                    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

                    16,17,18 doesn't mean anything. Could be no23. He is still a hooker

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

                      Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                      Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                      @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                      

                      Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                      Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                        What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                        1. The Groot
                        2. Aumua
                        3. The mighty Williams
                        4. Scott Barrett
                        5. Vaiiiiii
                        6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                        7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                        8. Sotutu
                        9. Fakatava
                        10. Moanga
                        11. Clarke
                        12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                        13. Lenert-Brown
                        14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                        15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                        16. A Ross?
                        17. S Vikena?
                        18. Tuangafasi?
                        19. Lord or Darry
                        20. Savea
                        21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                        22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                        23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                          What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                          1. The Groot
                          2. Aumua
                          3. The mighty Williams
                          4. Scott Barrett
                          5. Vaiiiiii
                          6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                          7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                          8. Sotutu
                          9. Fakatava
                          10. Moanga
                          11. Clarke
                          12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                          13. Lenert-Brown
                          14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                          15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                          16. A Ross?
                          17. S Vikena?
                          18. Tuangafasi?
                          19. Lord or Darry
                          20. Savea
                          21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                          22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                          23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                          @mackerzzzz 🤮

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                            1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                            1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

                            Starting loose forwards as a trio aren't abrasive enough for test footy imo. One of Ardie or Hoskins would need to drop out.

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                            • M Mackerzzzz

                              What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                              1. The Groot
                              2. Aumua
                              3. The mighty Williams
                              4. Scott Barrett
                              5. Vaiiiiii
                              6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                              7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                              8. Sotutu
                              9. Fakatava
                              10. Moanga
                              11. Clarke
                              12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                              13. Lenert-Brown
                              14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                              15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                              16. A Ross?
                              17. S Vikena?
                              18. Tuangafasi?
                              19. Lord or Darry
                              20. Savea
                              21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                              22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                              23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                              @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                              What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                              1. The Groot
                              2. Aumua
                              3. The mighty Williams
                              4. Scott Barrett
                              5. Vaiiiiii
                              6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                              7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                              8. Sotutu
                              9. Fakatava
                              10. Moanga
                              11. Clarke
                              12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                              13. Lenert-Brown
                              14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                              15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                              16. A Ross?
                              17. S Vikena?
                              18. Tuangafasi?
                              19. Lord or Darry
                              20. Savea
                              21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                              22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                              23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                              Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                              That’s as far as I got.

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                                @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                                1. The Groot
                                2. Aumua
                                3. The mighty Williams
                                4. Scott Barrett
                                5. Vaiiiiii
                                6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                                7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                                8. Sotutu
                                9. Fakatava
                                10. Moanga
                                11. Clarke
                                12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                                13. Lenert-Brown
                                14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                                15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                                16. A Ross?
                                17. S Vikena?
                                18. Tuangafasi?
                                19. Lord or Darry
                                20. Savea
                                21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                                22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                                23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                                Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                                That’s as far as I got.

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                                1. The Groot
                                2. Aumua
                                3. The mighty Williams
                                4. Scott Barrett
                                5. Vaiiiiii
                                6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                                7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                                8. Sotutu
                                9. Fakatava
                                10. Moanga
                                11. Clarke
                                12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                                13. Lenert-Brown
                                14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                                15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                                16. A Ross?
                                17. S Vikena?
                                18. Tuangafasi?
                                19. Lord or Darry
                                20. Savea
                                21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                                22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                                23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                                Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                                That’s as far as I got.

                                Williams can play both sides he was originally a TH
                                Probably will get some game time at TH for the Crusaders next season with Michael A gone.

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                                • pukunuiP pukunui
                                  1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                  Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                  One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                  Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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                                  @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                  Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                  One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                  Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                                  Jeez.

                                  678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                                  Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                                  Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                                  Pick 3 ...

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                    Que?

                                    Havili 12
                                    ALB 13

                                    ??

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                      Que?

                                      Havili 12
                                      ALB 13

                                      ??

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                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                      Que?

                                      Havili 12
                                      ALB 13

                                      ??

                                      If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

                                        Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                        Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                                        @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                        

                                        Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                        Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                        Bollocks. He was coming back from injury.

                                        And "have".

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                                          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                          

                                          Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                          Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                                          @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                          

                                          Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                          Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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