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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #2229

    ...and for anyone who's particularly nervous....

    Now is the time to chuck $50 on the Indians at $17. The return will go some way to assuaging the grief and "it's only a game...". 🙂

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    • DonsteppaD Offline
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      Donsteppa
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      #2230

      Watling the keeper is still excellent. I'd had an impression from last summer and scores in ND games that Watling the batsman hasn't quite been his usual rescuing batsman self lately, possibly since his double ton v England at Bay Oval in 2019. I've finally bothered to check some recent stats:

      Watling.PNG

      And Tests by year:

      Watling2.PNG

      Ideally he won't be needed with the bat tonight, but hopefully it's a fitting farewell for the understated legend if he is required.

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      • SiamS Offline
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        #2231

        Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
        They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

        Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

        Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

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        • B bayimports

          @kiwimurph said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          @bayimports don't forget in that scenario India would also be under pressure.

          oh I am not, I just think India is better in general with dealing those nerves than we are. Don't think for one minute I want to see it happen, but it wouldn't completely surprise me if it did.

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          Chris B.
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          #2232

          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          I just think India is better in general with dealing those nerves than we are.

          I guess you've got to have a special sort of personality to deal with the expectations of a billion Indians watching you.

          They've doubtless got shedloads of highly talented players at home, who couldn't sleep for a week when they got their big chance.

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          • SiamS Siam

            Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
            They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

            Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

            Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

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            No Quarter
            wrote on last edited by No Quarter
            #2233

            @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
            They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

            Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

            Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

            Yeah, they keep bringing up random tests from the past as well. The test has been utterly engrossing, I couldn't turn it off last night, and yet the comms start wanking on about a triple century Davey Dumb scored God knows when, flashing up the scorecard etc. It feels like someone decided this would be a great chance to advertise test cricket by bringing up games from the past? When the best advertisement is actually focusing on providing a detailed analysis of the two best teams in the world going hammer and tong in the final.

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            • DonsteppaD Offline
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              Donsteppa
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              #2234

              A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

              The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

              McCullum

              Gilchrist

              Gayle

              Kallis

              Sehwag

              Lara

              Cairns

              Richards

              Flintoff

              Hayden

              Misbah

              Pietersen

              Stokes

              Dhoni

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                Watling the keeper is still excellent. I'd had an impression from last summer and scores in ND games that Watling the batsman hasn't quite been his usual rescuing batsman self lately, possibly since his double ton v England at Bay Oval in 2019. I've finally bothered to check some recent stats:

                Watling.PNG

                And Tests by year:

                Watling2.PNG

                Ideally he won't be needed with the bat tonight, but hopefully it's a fitting farewell for the understated legend if he is required.

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                Chris B.
                wrote on last edited by Chris B.
                #2235

                @donsteppa If you add the 2020 and 2021 stats for BJ together, you get the 11 innings of the two preceding years - but, an average of about 17.

                Probably timing his departure about right.

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                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                  A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

                  The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

                  McCullum

                  Gilchrist

                  Gayle

                  Kallis

                  Sehwag

                  Lara

                  Cairns

                  Richards

                  Flintoff

                  Hayden

                  Misbah

                  Pietersen

                  Stokes

                  Dhoni

                  KiwiPieK Offline
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                  KiwiPie
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2236

                  @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                  A good list to be part of - from Wisden:

                  The only players with more Test sixes than Tim Southee:

                  McCullum

                  Gilchrist

                  Gayle

                  Kallis

                  Sehwag

                  Lara

                  Cairns

                  Richards

                  Flintoff

                  Hayden

                  Misbah

                  Pietersen

                  Stokes

                  Dhoni

                  Anyone feel like building a "sixes rate" table? Sixes per 100 balls faced? I'm too busy at the moment sorry

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    Perhaps the major issue with the commentary is that they never bloody shut up!
                    They call it like it's rugby with no dead air allowed.

                    Cricket is enhanced when they shut up and let the pictures do the talking leaving us to make sense and build suspense in our own heads.

                    Bumble and Gower would often go a whole over without talking, simply because there was nothing worthwhile to add.

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                    Paekakboyz
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                    #2237

                    @siam Coney and Sir Wads were masters of that on radio. Really nice to hear background noise from the ground during the quiet period.

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                      bayimports
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                      #2238

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                        #2239

                        @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                        That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

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                          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                          That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

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                          bayimports
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                          @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                          That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                          Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort 🙂

                          what the hell...

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                            #2241

                            @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                            Hitting that many sixes is so irresponsible at test level.

                            ( I’m amazed no one has griped about his batting so thought I’d better get in there )

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

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                              Hitting that many sixes is so irresponsible at test level.

                              ( I’m amazed no one has griped about his batting so thought I’d better get in there )

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                              Godder
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                              #2242

                              @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

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                                @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

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                                @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @mn5 I love that there are 3 Black Caps on the list, and they are all in the top 5.

                                Four kiwis in the top six if you count that overrated Ranga who plays for the Poms.

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                                  @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  10e757b5-a694-4b2f-9725-1869f937a082-image.png

                                  That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                                  Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort 🙂

                                  what the hell...

                                  63c18b04-046f-4927-8f72-132822d1e1e0-image.png

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                                  KiwiPie
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                                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @kiwipie said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  10e757b5-a694-4b2f-9725-1869f937a082-image.png

                                  That's brilliant - were the rest even trying?

                                  Its almost as though Southee was after a record he could own, now if I extended the list to include more six hitters then of course Shahid Afridi would join Southee, but that was too much effort 🙂

                                  what the hell...

                                  63c18b04-046f-4927-8f72-132822d1e1e0-image.png

                                  Afridi was always too safe a batsman.

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                                    MN5
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                                    #2245

                                    May as well keep the subject going til the day starts…..

                                    I’m shocked Beefy Botham isn’t there. I remember highlights of him smoking some huge sixes ( and remember it was a lot tougher with bigger boundaries and less meaty bats in his day ).

                                    Not surprised his mate Viv is there though.

                                    EDIT: cricinfo has Beefy with 67 sixes out of 8565 balls faced, he just misses out.

                                    Some old timer from back in the day only managed to hit six in his entire career. Bradman or someone, he must have been shit.

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                                      May as well keep the subject going til the day starts…..

                                      I’m shocked Beefy Botham isn’t there. I remember highlights of him smoking some huge sixes ( and remember it was a lot tougher with bigger boundaries and less meaty bats in his day ).

                                      Not surprised his mate Viv is there though.

                                      EDIT: cricinfo has Beefy with 67 sixes out of 8565 balls faced, he just misses out.

                                      Some old timer from back in the day only managed to hit six in his entire career. Bradman or someone, he must have been shit.

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                                      Crucial
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                                      #2246

                                      @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

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                                        @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

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                                        MN5
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                                        #2247

                                        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @mn5 Bradman was a disciple of hitting the ball along the ground and his technique was to turn his wrists accordingly. Tried to take the outfield catch away from the equation.

                                        Absolutely. I’m fairly sure I read somewhere that he still managed to score pretty quickly while virtually never hitting it in the air.

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                                          Geees 1 day to play in the world test final and if I was Kane I'd try have a quick chat to Kohli and see if he's up to try get a result and find a winner

                                          Tell him India can bat through to tea (assuming they make it that far) and then declare. In return the black caos will have a crack at whatever they can muster - and take it right to thru to dark too. If no declaration then kohli obviously is happy with a draw, so I wouldnt even come back after tea if no declaration

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