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    Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

    Photo from 24 August.

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      @nostrildamus Any news on Pari Pari Parkinson or Jona Nareki?

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      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

      @nostrildamus Any news on Pari Pari Parkinson or Jona Nareki?

      Others will be far better informed. I read that PPP was aiming for NPC season but this doesn't seem promising https://www.allblacks.com/news/season-preview-bunnings-npc-2022/
      Outs: Ethan Blackadder, Andrew Knewstubb, Jacob Norris, Mark Telea, Tom Marshall, Tim O’Malley, Taina Fox-Matamua, Isileli Tuungafasi, Regan Ware, Pari Pari Parkinson

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

        Photo from 24 August.

        d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

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        #3812

        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

        Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

        Photo from 24 August.

        d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

        you mean ruled out for 2022 only I hope?

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

          Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

          Photo from 24 August.

          d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

          you mean ruled out for 2022 only I hope?

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          @nostrildamus Uhm, yes. :man_facepalming_medium_skin_tone:

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            @nostrildamus Any news on Pari Pari Parkinson or Jona Nareki?

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            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

            Jona Nareki?

            Nareki, not this year
            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-prospect-jona-nareki-set-for-lengthy-sideline-stint/ Was he seriously in AB contention?

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

              Jona Nareki?

              Nareki, not this year
              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-prospect-jona-nareki-set-for-lengthy-sideline-stint/ Was he seriously in AB contention?

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              @nostrildamus Only in some people's heads.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @nostrildamus Only in some people's heads.

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                @Stargazer Wonder if there are any new signings for Super rugby teams in 2023 of returning Kiwis from overseas on overseas players.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                  Photo from 24 August.

                  d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                  Photo from 24 August.

                  d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                  We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                  Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                    Photo from 24 August.

                    d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                    We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                    Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

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                    #3818

                    @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                    Photo from 24 August.

                    d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                    We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                    Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

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                      I think over the dominant period from the 2000's on we started to love the smell of our own farts and got a bit too altruistic with our time and I.P. Inviting Roy Keane down to see how we coach for example. Books like "legacy" being written.

                      I also do not understand why we let so many outsiders into the environment to get a look at how we operate over the last 15 years or so.

                      The likes of O'Gara, Matera, Haskell.

                      Players who go on sabbaticals should be told not to come back.

                      Coaches who go abroad should be fucked off too.

                      If you aren't onboard with NZ as a project then do-one.

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                        @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                        Photo from 24 August.

                        d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                        We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                        Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

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                        @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                        Photo from 24 August.

                        d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                        We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                        Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                        I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                          Photo from 24 August.

                          d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                          We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                          Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                          I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

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                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                          Photo from 24 August.

                          d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                          We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                          Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                          I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

                          he was everywhere that day. plenty of mongrel too.

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                            I think over the dominant period from the 2000's on we started to love the smell of our own farts and got a bit too altruistic with our time and I.P. Inviting Roy Keane down to see how we coach for example. Books like "legacy" being written.

                            I also do not understand why we let so many outsiders into the environment to get a look at how we operate over the last 15 years or so.

                            The likes of O'Gara, Matera, Haskell.

                            Players who go on sabbaticals should be told not to come back.

                            Coaches who go abroad should be fucked off too.

                            If you aren't onboard with NZ as a project then do-one.

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                            We definetly have some talented youngsters coming through the system. The Under 20s this year were very impressive in the Oceania Cup. Hopefully Silverlake poors more resources into the Under 20s. The loss of talent abroad both coaching and players is having an effect as that is a contributing factor in the growing performance of the Northern Hemisphere. We have also poored a lot into the Japanese game. We need that talent back in New Zealand to strengthen our game instead of developing other nations at the expense of ours.

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                              @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                              Photo from 24 August.

                              d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                              We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                              Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                              I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

                              he was everywhere that day. plenty of mongrel too.

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                              @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                              Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                              Photo from 24 August.

                              d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                              We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                              Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                              I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

                              he was everywhere that day. plenty of mongrel too.

                              I don't disagree, just making the point that the compilation doesn't capture any of that! Personally I would have left out the infringements and inneffective cleans...

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                                Photo from 24 August.

                                d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                                We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                                Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                                I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

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                                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Steve said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                Blackadder is training with the Mako again, but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near making a return. (I also remember they said he was ruled out for 2023)

                                Photo from 24 August.

                                d05e40bd-2e12-44a6-9f8a-d19f529fa6f0-image.png

                                We really missed him. I think he is the future. workmate is phenomenal and puts a few of the sunshine boys in the forward pack to shame.

                                Future AB captain ? Him or Papalii?

                                I like Blackadder, but that's an odd compilation. It starts with him arguably enyering the ruck from the side , follows up with an ineffective clean, then cuts to him getting stepped and bailed our by Beaudy in cover...amd that's just the first 30 seconds!

                                Sounds like his Dads test career

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                                  We definetly have some talented youngsters coming through the system. The Under 20s this year were very impressive in the Oceania Cup. Hopefully Silverlake poors more resources into the Under 20s. The loss of talent abroad both coaching and players is having an effect as that is a contributing factor in the growing performance of the Northern Hemisphere. We have also poored a lot into the Japanese game. We need that talent back in New Zealand to strengthen our game instead of developing other nations at the expense of ours.

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                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  We definetly have some talented youngsters coming through the system. The Under 20s this year were very impressive in the Oceania Cup. Hopefully Silverlake poors more resources into the Under 20s. The loss of talent abroad both coaching and players is having an effect as that is a contributing factor in the growing performance of the Northern Hemisphere. We have also poored a lot into the Japanese game. We need that talent back in New Zealand to strengthen our game instead of developing other nations at the expense of ours.

                                  It's hard to gauge how good the Under 20s were this year because we don't know how strong the opposition was. What does seem promising is the number of players from that team looking good at NPC level.

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                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    We definetly have some talented youngsters coming through the system. The Under 20s this year were very impressive in the Oceania Cup. Hopefully Silverlake poors more resources into the Under 20s. The loss of talent abroad both coaching and players is having an effect as that is a contributing factor in the growing performance of the Northern Hemisphere. We have also poored a lot into the Japanese game. We need that talent back in New Zealand to strengthen our game instead of developing other nations at the expense of ours.

                                    It's hard to gauge how good the Under 20s were this year because we don't know how strong the opposition was. What does seem promising is the number of players from that team looking good at NPC level.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse I agree with that. Without a World U20 Championship, you just don't know. The Aussie U20 team looked terrible, the Pumitas looked good, but would we have beaten the Junior Boks?

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Jona Nareki?

                                      Nareki, not this year
                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-prospect-jona-nareki-set-for-lengthy-sideline-stint/ Was he seriously in AB contention?

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                                      @nostrildamus @bones had a man crush on him I think.

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                                        semi interesting stats

                                        Involvements in the 6 games so far

                                        All 6
                                        Cane (6 starts)
                                        Savea (6 starts)
                                        Smith (6 starts)
                                        R Ioane (6 starts)
                                        J Barrett (6 starts)
                                        R Mounga (2 starts, 6 bench)
                                        Bower (4 starts 2 bench)

                                        5 games
                                        Taylor (3 starts 2 bench)
                                        Whitelock (5 starts)
                                        S Barrett (5 starts)
                                        B Barrett (4 starts 1 bench)
                                        Tupaea (2 starts 3 bench)
                                        Jordan (1 bench 4 starts)
                                        Taukeiaho (2 bench 3 starts)

                                        For a team that is 2-4, it's interesting to see so many ever-presents.

                                        Am i calling for all of those players to get the ass? no
                                        Should a team focused on peak performance be rewarding failure with selection over and over? also no

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          semi interesting stats

                                          Involvements in the 6 games so far

                                          All 6
                                          Cane (6 starts)
                                          Savea (6 starts)
                                          Smith (6 starts)
                                          R Ioane (6 starts)
                                          J Barrett (6 starts)
                                          R Mounga (2 starts, 6 bench)
                                          Bower (4 starts 2 bench)

                                          5 games
                                          Taylor (3 starts 2 bench)
                                          Whitelock (5 starts)
                                          S Barrett (5 starts)
                                          B Barrett (4 starts 1 bench)
                                          Tupaea (2 starts 3 bench)
                                          Jordan (1 bench 4 starts)
                                          Taukeiaho (2 bench 3 starts)

                                          For a team that is 2-4, it's interesting to see so many ever-presents.

                                          Am i calling for all of those players to get the ass? no
                                          Should a team focused on peak performance be rewarding failure with selection over and over? also no

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          semi interesting stats

                                          Involvements in the 6 games so far

                                          All 6
                                          Cane (6 starts)
                                          Savea (6 starts)
                                          Smith (6 starts)
                                          R Ioane (6 starts)
                                          J Barrett (6 starts)
                                          R Mounga (2 starts, 6 bench)
                                          Bower (4 starts 2 bench)

                                          5 games
                                          Taylor (3 starts 2 bench)
                                          Whitelock (5 starts)
                                          S Barrett (5 starts)
                                          B Barrett (4 starts 1 bench)
                                          Tupaea (2 starts 3 bench)
                                          Jordan (1 bench 4 starts)
                                          Taukeiaho (2 bench 3 starts)

                                          For a team that is 2-4, it's interesting to see so many ever-presents.

                                          Am i calling for all of those players to get the ass? no
                                          Should a team focused on peak performance be rewarding failure with selection over and over? also no

                                          Reading your list one would think Sami T was one of the worst performers or often injured.

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