All Blacks 2022
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For the record, I'd have Thomas Umaga-Jensen as the ball carrier at 12 and ALB as the organizer at 13.
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
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For the record, I'd have Thomas Umaga-Jensen as the ball carrier at 12 and ALB as the organizer at 13.
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
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For the record, I'd have Thomas Umaga-Jensen as the ball carrier at 12 and ALB as the organizer at 13.
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
I note that the Highlanders player profile has him at 95 kg. I certainly don't believe that either, and I assume that Thomas and Peter are similar in size? Peter is listed at 102 kg.
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@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
I note that the Highlanders player profile has him at 95 kg. I certainly don't believe that either, and I assume that Thomas and Peter are similar in size? Peter is listed at 102 kg.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
I note that the Highlanders player profile has him at 95 kg. I certainly don't believe that either, and I assume that Thomas and Peter are similar in size? Peter is listed at 102 kg.
Tony Brown said he came back from preseason weighing around 113kg
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
i dont remember that but at least he made it to the AB's...TUJ cant make it out the super season currently
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
i dont remember that but at least he made it to the AB's...TUJ cant make it out the super season currently
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
i dont remember that but at least he made it to the AB's...TUJ cant make it out the super season currently
Has TUJ played 3 games in a row in the last 3 seasons ?.
I don’t think he has due to injuries.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
i dont remember that but at least he made it to the AB's...TUJ cant make it out the super season currently
Has TUJ played 3 games in a row in the last 3 seasons ?.
I don’t think he has due to injuries.
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Although I agree with that, access to the AB trainers, dieticians etc might be important for overcoming it
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Isn't he out with a groin injury currently?
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat but he is made of glass, he could be the love child of DC and Nonu but if he cant string enough games together to show what he can do does it count?
SBW would get injured every second or third game, that didn't stop Hansen favoring him over others who were possibly better.
@kiwi_expat I don't recall too many injuries for SBW, especially in the early part of his rugby career.
Always seemed pretty durable, and looked to just be finding his feet and pressuring Nonu for starts and went for one of his league stints.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Isn't he out with a groin injury currently?
@kiwimurph He's had so many different injuries, I really don't remember them all.
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@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
I note that the Highlanders player profile has him at 95 kg. I certainly don't believe that either, and I assume that Thomas and Peter are similar in size? Peter is listed at 102 kg.
@bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2022:
There aren't many centres as huge (110kg+) as Thomas in NZ & the man is a beast at just 23 years.
I note that the Highlanders player profile has him at 95 kg. I certainly don't believe that either, and I assume that Thomas and Peter are similar in size? Peter is listed at 102 kg.
Thomas looks much bigger/heavier than Peter.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do
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@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do
Thanks Cotton
how's it going at the ocho? -
Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.
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Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.
@cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:
Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.
Jager is the best TH if our plan is to go back to a worse Owen Franks. My quick look over his stats suggests he has 11 runs for 8 metres from three games. He's a good Super level player who makes his tackles, but he's miles way from being able to contribute around the field, which we desperately need from our props.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks 2022:
Based solely on current form, the top three THPs are Crusaders Jager, Newell and Williams (in alphabetical order). Laulala, Lomax, and Ta'avao gain virtually no ground in the confrontational phases, and the former two (Laulala and Lomax) are penalty magnets. I wouldn't mind seeing one (or two) of Jager, Newell and Williams, be included in the June squad. They must be given some experience before the RWC.
Jager is the best TH if our plan is to go back to a worse Owen Franks. My quick look over his stats suggests he has 11 runs for 8 metres from three games. He's a good Super level player who makes his tackles, but he's miles way from being able to contribute around the field, which we desperately need from our props.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 How does that access prevent breaking bones or suffering a concussion?
Technique, training methods, plenty of ways.
true, although those are all also needed to just keep up with the international game...let alone overcome existing issues, there is only so much they can do
Thanks Cotton
how's it going at the ocho?
