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All Blacks 2022

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  • boobooB booboo

    @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

    1 Moody
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Tu'ungafasi
    4 Barrett
    5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

    Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

    Reserves might be something like:

    Taylor
    Hodgman
    Laulala
    Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

    Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job. Plenty of options in most positions. Very few stand out as head and shoulders better.

    I'll take your Whitelock bait on behalf of the Cantabs though. Would probably sneak him in in front of BBR (needs to earn his third B back).

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

    Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job.

    Nine and ten are firmly settled (Smith and Barrett). Midfield and loose forward players are the hardest to select. Really hope Jordie Barrett can kick on at 12.

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      Loose forward pool:

      Cane
      Papalii
      Savea
      Ioane
      Sotutu
      Blackadder
      Robinson

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        #561

        Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

        Certainties:

        Ioane
        ALB (injured?)

        12 options:

        Tupaea
        Havili
        RTS
        J Barrett
        Goodhue
        (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

        13 options:

        Fainga'anuku
        Goodhue
        (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

        We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

        9 Smith
        10 B Barrett
        11 Clarke
        12 J Barrett
        13 R Ioane
        14 Reece
        15 Jordan

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        • TimT Tim

          Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

          Certainties:

          Ioane
          ALB (injured?)

          12 options:

          Tupaea
          Havili
          RTS
          J Barrett
          Goodhue
          (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

          13 options:

          Fainga'anuku
          Goodhue
          (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

          We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

          9 Smith
          10 B Barrett
          11 Clarke
          12 J Barrett
          13 R Ioane
          14 Reece
          15 Jordan

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          @tim if have the topXV from 7 out as

          Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.

          Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!

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          • TimT Tim

            Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

            Certainties:

            Ioane
            ALB (injured?)

            12 options:

            Tupaea
            Havili
            RTS
            J Barrett
            Goodhue
            (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

            13 options:

            Fainga'anuku
            Goodhue
            (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

            We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

            9 Smith
            10 B Barrett
            11 Clarke
            12 J Barrett
            13 R Ioane
            14 Reece
            15 Jordan

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            @tim i'd put TUJ as a 12 contender (if he can stay fit.... big if)

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            • M Machpants

              @tim if have the topXV from 7 out as

              Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.

              Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!

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              Old Samurai Jack
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              @machpants That is what I am seeing at the moment. Mounga really needs to get his mojo back though. We need someone who can manage the end of the game and that includes kicking for territory (example Steyn in the 2nd test vs ABs).

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              • TimT Tim

                Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                Certainties:

                Ioane
                ALB (injured?)

                12 options:

                Tupaea
                Havili
                RTS
                J Barrett
                Goodhue
                (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                13 options:

                Fainga'anuku
                Goodhue
                (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                9 Smith
                10 B Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 J Barrett
                13 R Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Jordan

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                #565

                @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                Certainties:

                Ioane
                ALB (injured?)

                12 options:

                Tupaea
                Havili
                RTS
                J Barrett
                Goodhue
                (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                13 options:

                Fainga'anuku
                Goodhue
                (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                9 Smith
                10 B Barrett
                11 Clarke
                12 J Barrett
                13 R Ioane
                14 Reece
                15 Jordan

                I think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                  Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                  Certainties:

                  Ioane
                  ALB (injured?)

                  12 options:

                  Tupaea
                  Havili
                  RTS
                  J Barrett
                  Goodhue
                  (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                  13 options:

                  Fainga'anuku
                  Goodhue
                  (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                  We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                  9 Smith
                  10 B Barrett
                  11 Clarke
                  12 J Barrett
                  13 R Ioane
                  14 Reece
                  15 Jordan

                  I think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs

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                  #566

                  @dan54 Oh I think Jordie will be the 1st choice 15, but I'd like to see him get a run at 12 too.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @dan54 Oh I think Jordie will be the 1st choice 15, but I'd like to see him get a run at 12 too.

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                    george33
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #567

                    @tim smith, beauden,Clarke,rts,riko,talea, jordie

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                      #568
                      1. De Groot
                      2. Taukeiaho
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Lord
                      5. Whitelock (rotates w/ Retallick)
                      6. Savea
                      7. Cane
                      8. PGS
                      9. Smith
                      10. B. Barrett
                      11. Ioane
                      12. J. Barrett
                      13. ALB
                      14. Reece
                      15. Jordan
                      16. Taylor
                      17. Norris
                      18. Ta’avo
                      19. Vaa’I (S. Barrett?)
                      20. Papalii (Jacobson?)
                      21. Weber
                      22. Mo’unga
                      23. Tupaea (TUJ / PUJ / RTS / Nankivell?)

                      Wouldn’t mind this team going forward

                      Inexperienced props sure but think it’s time to get rid of the older non-performers imo

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                      • G george33

                        @tim smith, beauden,Clarke,rts,riko,talea, jordie

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                        @george33 what team do u support?

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                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                          @george33 what team do u support?

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                          @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                            @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                            Pretty obvious who @Yeahtheboys supports as well. Terrible team.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                              That’s the joke…

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                                #573

                                Moody
                                Taukeiaho
                                Ofa T
                                Lord
                                Whitelock
                                Cane
                                Ioane
                                Savea
                                Smith
                                B. Barrett
                                L Fainga'anuku
                                J. Barrett
                                Ioane
                                Reece
                                Jordan
                                Reserves
                                Taylor
                                Hodgman
                                Newell
                                S. Barrett
                                Papalii
                                Christie
                                Mo’unga
                                Clarke

                                Team I would like to see Run on.

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                                  #574

                                  This Jordie at 12 thing is really interesting.
                                  Perhaps it depends on whether Jordan is seen as effective enough at test level as a 15.
                                  How's his defence, positioning, high ball work and kicking game compared to Jordie?
                                  Obviously his attack is superior.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

                                    That’s the joke…

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                                    @billy-tell kids these days, when I went to school, jokes were meant to be funny....

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      Moody
                                      Taukeiaho
                                      Ofa T
                                      Lord
                                      Whitelock
                                      Cane
                                      Ioane
                                      Savea
                                      Smith
                                      B. Barrett
                                      L Fainga'anuku
                                      J. Barrett
                                      Ioane
                                      Reece
                                      Jordan
                                      Reserves
                                      Taylor
                                      Hodgman
                                      Newell
                                      S. Barrett
                                      Papalii
                                      Christie
                                      Mo’unga
                                      Clarke

                                      Team I would like to see Run on.

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                                      #576

                                      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      Moody
                                      Taukeiaho
                                      Ofa T
                                      Lord
                                      Whitelock
                                      Cane
                                      Ioane
                                      Savea
                                      Smith
                                      B. Barrett
                                      L Fainga'anuku
                                      J. Barrett
                                      Ioane
                                      Reece
                                      Jordan
                                      Reserves
                                      Taylor
                                      Hodgman
                                      Newell
                                      S. Barrett
                                      Papalii
                                      Christie
                                      Mo’unga
                                      Clarke

                                      Team I would like to see Run on.

                                      Who are you and how did you get @Chris's password?

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

                                        Certainties:

                                        Ioane
                                        ALB (injured?)

                                        12 options:

                                        Tupaea
                                        Havili
                                        RTS
                                        J Barrett
                                        Goodhue
                                        (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

                                        13 options:

                                        Fainga'anuku
                                        Goodhue
                                        (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

                                        We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

                                        9 Smith
                                        10 B Barrett
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 J Barrett
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 Reece
                                        15 Jordan

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                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence.

                                        Did he have a 'first' season? He was pretty much plucked from the Chiefs squad wasn't he? Did he get many starts? I don't recall anyone touting him as a potential AB before he was selected.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          Moody
                                          Taukeiaho
                                          Ofa T
                                          Lord
                                          Whitelock
                                          Cane
                                          Ioane
                                          Savea
                                          Smith
                                          B. Barrett
                                          L Fainga'anuku
                                          J. Barrett
                                          Ioane
                                          Reece
                                          Jordan
                                          Reserves
                                          Taylor
                                          Hodgman
                                          Newell
                                          S. Barrett
                                          Papalii
                                          Christie
                                          Mo’unga
                                          Clarke

                                          Team I would like to see Run on.

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                                          @chris Interesting team. Have heard something about Lord needing to get back into line quicker after tackles and carries. Looks to have some real ability to impact the game though.

                                          Fainga'anuku is a real talent. Should have been in the ABs last year for some game time.

                                          Wonder if Clarke can cover centre. Has done so for Marist, but may lack some vision? Defence is good.

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