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  • ChrisC Chris

    As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

    [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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    @chris Shit news for him. Bloody injuries!

    Sounds like he may be playing NPC for Waikato at the business end of the comp. to get ready for the Northern tour.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

      [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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      @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

      As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

      [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

      Boo

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      • ChrisC Chris

        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

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        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

        When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

          As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

          When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

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          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

          As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

          When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

          We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

            @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

            As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

            [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

            When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

            We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

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            @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

            @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

            @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

            As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

            [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

            When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

            We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

            It was the Yoga

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/9379534/Yoga-works-a-treat-for-powerhouse-Ma-a-Nonu

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

              [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

              When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

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              @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

              @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

              As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

              [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

              When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

              Smith had some issues for a while there.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                Smith had some issues for a while there.

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                @gt12

                Smith had some issues for a while there.

                A fair few injuries with the Canes, but apart from a broken hand he was pretty injury free AB-wise compared to what we've had since. That or my memory is buggered...

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                  [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                  When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                  We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

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                  @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                  As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                  [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                  When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                  We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

                  Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                    As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                    [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                    When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                    We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

                    Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

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                    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                    Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

                    What do you mean "end up with"? It's been the norm since 2016....:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @gt12

                      Smith had some issues for a while there.

                      A fair few injuries with the Canes, but apart from a broken hand he was pretty injury free AB-wise compared to what we've had since. That or my memory is buggered...

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                      @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @gt12

                      Smith had some issues for a while there.

                      A fair few injuries with the Canes, but apart from a broken hand he was pretty injury free AB-wise compared to what we've had since. That or my memory is buggered...

                      Nah, he would have broken through as first choice far earlier if he hadn't broken his leg and had other injuries. From Wiki:

                      He made his All Blacks debut age 22, versus Italy in 2004, after a meteoric rise which saw him make his professional debut just a season earlier. In 2006, Smith won a place on the end of year tour to Europe, despite breaking his leg for the Hurricanes earlier that year. In 2007, Smith faced a number of setbacks, mostly involving injury. However, he eventually earned his way back into a starting position, and by 2008, was the first choice centre for the All Blacks.
                      

                      He was missing from the team for the game that never happened (although so was Nonu), but luckily he got his injuries out the way at the time that Nonu came of age.

                      https://www.superxv.com/4139-conrad-smiths-injury-woes-continue/

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                        When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                        We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

                        Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

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                        @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                        @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                        As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                        When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                        We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

                        Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

                        Long way to go in SR yet .You could be right last man standing is were we could be at by the time the international season comes around.

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                          @chris said in All Blacks 2022:

                          As I mentioned before ALB out for a big chunk of the season 6 mths not back until October at least.

                          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300563845/all-black-anton-lienertbrown-set-to-be-sidelined-for-six-months-after-surgery

                          When you look at the injuries we've had to Goodhue. Crotty & SBW, it makes you realise how lucky we were to have two players like Ma'a & Conrad who were not only world class for years on end, but stayed remarkably injury-free.

                          We sure were lucky they stayed virtually injury free.All that time playing together for the Canes made them one of the best combos we ever had.

                          Seems midfield is where we seem to get a lot of players getting broken, so makes it hard to get combos doesn't it. I must admit I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now . We lost Goodhue and seemingly Goodhue/ALB was preferred midfield combo, now Goodhue coming right ALB gone. Are we going to have to end up with a midfield of last men standing??

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                          @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                          I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now

                          If RTS is fit when the squad is named I think he'll be in it

                          His skillset is different enough I think they'll want to have a close look. Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

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                            @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                            I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now

                            If RTS is fit when the squad is named I think he'll be in it

                            His skillset is different enough I think they'll want to have a close look. Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

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                            @duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                            Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

                            Yeah I could see them bringing him in to train with the ABs but not naming him as part of the official ABs.

                            There are still 7 rounds + playoffs for players to show their stuff.

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                              @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now

                              If RTS is fit when the squad is named I think he'll be in it

                              His skillset is different enough I think they'll want to have a close look. Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

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                              @duluth said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              I was keen to see if RTS and Reiko could strike up some kind of partnership that could go somewheer, but RTS lasts one game and I doubt whether he going to have enough time to do much now

                              If RTS is fit when the squad is named I think he'll be in it

                              His skillset is different enough I think they'll want to have a close look. Even if that means carrying him as an extra player

                              Yep if he was named as a training member against Irish could see sense, although plenty would get pissed off, giving out jerseys etc. I really don't know much about him, as I don't watch any league at ll, so was interested to see how he went.

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                                In my opinion, RTS hasn't shown enough to suggest he should be picked, but he has the same hype around him as SBW, so that may be enough for him to get in. That would be pretty hars forh the player who might get dropped as a result, if they drop someone (most likely Tupaea). There's still time though and if RTS can stay in one piece, he will have the opportunity to claim a spot on the field instead of expectation/hype only.

                                If they're going to bring in training members, they could also bring in Fakatava, even if he's not eligible (yet).

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                                  In my opinion, RTS hasn't shown enough to suggest he should be picked, but he has the same hype around him as SBW, so that may be enough for him to get in. That would be pretty hars forh the player who might get dropped as a result, if they drop someone (most likely Tupaea). There's still time though and if RTS can stay in one piece, he will have the opportunity to claim a spot on the field instead of expectation/hype only.

                                  If they're going to bring in training members, they could also bring in Fakatava, even if he's not eligible (yet).

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                                  @stargazer SBW (and now RTS) have shown quality at the top level of their sports. That means the chance of them under-delivering on the big stage is significantly reduced; the mental game is proven.

                                  RTS hasn't had enough time to make an impact, despite the commentators talking him up. It'd be a look in camp, followed by picking on potential or to develop if the coaches/selectors like what they see. I can understand it, but it'd suck if you were the fringe 12 who missed out.

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                                    One silver lining with Tupaea is he should now see more consistent game time the rest of the season in ALB's absence.

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                                      One silver lining with Tupaea is he should now see more consistent game time the rest of the season in ALB's absence.

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                                      @kiwimurph have to think Reiko is now in the drivers seat for the AB 13 too, possibly opening the door for Leicester at 11.

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                                        @stargazer SBW (and now RTS) have shown quality at the top level of their sports. That means the chance of them under-delivering on the big stage is significantly reduced; the mental game is proven.

                                        RTS hasn't had enough time to make an impact, despite the commentators talking him up. It'd be a look in camp, followed by picking on potential or to develop if the coaches/selectors like what they see. I can understand it, but it'd suck if you were the fringe 12 who missed out.

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                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @stargazer SBW (and now RTS) have shown quality at the top level of their sports. That means the chance of them under-delivering on the big stage is significantly reduced; the mental game is proven.

                                        RTS hasn't had enough time to make an impact, despite the commentators talking him up. It'd be a look in camp, followed by picking on potential or to develop if the coaches/selectors like what they see. I can understand it, but it'd suck if you were the fringe 12 who missed out.

                                        I'll be pissed if the don't pick him

                                        It's what bold coaches do to develop the players required for the team. A proven high level athlete needs to be brought in to learn about test rugby, something you absolutely cannot do playing Super rugby.

                                        The ABs stopped being a rep team 30 years ago, it is now an entity unto itself. People need to get past that.

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                                          In my opinion, RTS hasn't shown enough to suggest he should be picked, but he has the same hype around him as SBW, so that may be enough for him to get in. That would be pretty hars forh the player who might get dropped as a result, if they drop someone (most likely Tupaea). There's still time though and if RTS can stay in one piece, he will have the opportunity to claim a spot on the field instead of expectation/hype only.

                                          If they're going to bring in training members, they could also bring in Fakatava, even if he's not eligible (yet).

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                                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          In my opinion, RTS hasn't shown enough to suggest he should be picked, but he has the same hype around him as SBW, so that may be enough for him to get in. That would be pretty hars forh the player who might get dropped as a result, if they drop someone (most likely Tupaea). There's still time though and if RTS can stay in one piece, he will have the opportunity to claim a spot on the field instead of expectation/hype only.

                                          I suppose there a small chance Havili misses out if they pick RTS. Although he does have utility value at 15. It's just that he was a proven crumbler when the pressure really came on. I just don't want to see his running sideways jinky bullshit at 12 again.

                                          The way I see it, Havili is nothing more than an honorary member of the Cantab' safe white boy club (despite not being white), with esteemed members such as George Bridge and Brayden Ennor,

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