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Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

    @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

    Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

    Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

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    @Nepia Yeah, and/or maybe it took time to get the required paper work.

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      Media release: Max Hicks called up, too.

      https://www.allblacks.com/news/maori-all-blacks-bolster-squad-ahead-of-first-match-against-ireland/

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        @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

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        @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

        @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

        I think maybe they were waiting to see how he was after final, as you say he would seem the best loose forward in squad.

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          @Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

          Didn't see this one coming. May be a sign that either Dickson, Parkinson, IWL or Selby-Rickit is shifting to the ABs?

          https://twitter.com/crfu/status/1539491455038808067

          Yep wonder about that too, same as Nock coming in is it more or less planned or Weber or TJP having to cover if Nuggy Smith is not quite right.

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          @Dan54 said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

          @Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

          Yep wonder about that too, same as Nock coming in is it more or less planned or Weber or TJP having to cover if Nuggy Smith is not quite right.

          Whoops I just stopped and thought Nock would be there as you need 3 9s in case of one pulling out late.

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            Sam Nock over Bryn Hall as well.

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              Sam Nock over Bryn Hall as well.

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              @Old-Samurai-Jack May have to do with the fact that Hall is going to Japan.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Old-Samurai-Jack May have to do with the fact that Hall is going to Japan.

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                @Stargazer still, the Maori side isnt all about a development path though.

                Hall has played better.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Stargazer still, the Maori side isnt all about a development path though.

                  Hall has played better.

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                  @taniwharugby I was more thinking of the possibility that Hall made himself unavailable because he wants a good break before heading to Japan (he won't be playing NPC, will he?). They have a really long preseason.

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                    Nock and Hicks were in that leaked squad, but not named at the official announcement. We need a few more gingas in the Māori squad.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                      @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

                      Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

                      Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

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                      @Nepia said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                      @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                      @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

                      Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

                      Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

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                      • J junior

                        @Nepia said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                        @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                        @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

                        Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

                        Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

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                        @junior fun fact Grace is named after his Christian Cullen🙂

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                          @Nepia said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                          @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                          @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

                          Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

                          Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

                          Christian Cullen has entered the chat

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                          @junior said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                          @Nepia said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                          @Dolamite said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                          @Nepia maybe they just found out he was Māori, he’s definitely the best loose forward in that squad

                          Yeah, possibly, but I thought they all had to declare they were eligible with their contracts.

                          Maybe he didn’t know his whakapapa?

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                          Well as most from the Nua where Cullen was from knew his roots that would surprise me if Grace doesn't know his.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @taniwharugby I was more thinking of the possibility that Hall made himself unavailable because he wants a good break before heading to Japan (he won't be playing NPC, will he?). They have a really long preseason.

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                            @Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                            @taniwharugby I was more thinking of the possibility that Hall made himself unavailable because he wants a good break before heading to Japan (he won't be playing NPC, will he?). They have a really long preseason.

                            Hall actually laughed on tv that he missed Maori team because of TJP and Weber, so don't think that is case,

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                              @Stargazer said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                              @taniwharugby I was more thinking of the possibility that Hall made himself unavailable because he wants a good break before heading to Japan (he won't be playing NPC, will he?). They have a really long preseason.

                              Hall actually laughed on tv that he missed Maori team because of TJP and Weber, so don't think that is case,

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                              @Dan54 although he may have subsequently made himself unavailable if they then came knocking after overlooking him initially?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Dan54 although he may have subsequently made himself unavailable if they then came knocking after overlooking him initially?

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                                @taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                                @Dan54 although he may have subsequently made himself unavailable if they then came knocking after overlooking him initially?

                                No idea mate, but wuld gues as it just 3rd 9 they looking for maybe felt it better to have someone who will be here next year etc. Not saying I know anymoe than anyone else and all guesswork of course.

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                                  @Dan54 although he may have subsequently made himself unavailable if they then came knocking after overlooking him initially?

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Māori All Blacks to play Ireland?:

                                  @Dan54 although he may have subsequently made himself unavailable if they then came knocking after overlooking him initially?

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                                    I assume the team will be named tomorrow.

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/129066429/i-cant-wait-cullen-grace-set-to-play-for-mori-all-blacks-against-ireland-after-dive-into-his-eligibility

                                      I'm no longer confused about Grace. From the article it appears he always knew he was Maori, but didn't really know his whakapapa or interact with Te Ao Maori much, probably in part due to growing up in Timaru. Tamati Ellision encouraged him to make himself available.

                                      I like that the Maori team can introduce players to Te Ao Maori if they didn't grow up in the culture.

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                                          Match thread for the first game is here:
                                          https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5383/maori-all-blacks-v-ireland-1st-match

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