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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph
    A breakthrough in the Super Rugby wars is on the horizon after New Zealand Rugby’s top brass met with their Australian counterparts at the Wallabies’ Rugby Championship match in Adelaide.
    
    Hours before the All Blacks suffered a humiliating loss to Argentina in Christchurch, the Herald can reveal that the NZR chief executive and two board members were at the Rugby Australia chairman’s lounge at Adelaide Oval.
    
    Sources close to both camps indicated the gathering was “positive” and “productive”, with a new long-term deal for Super Rugby likely within a couple of weeks.
    
    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA. New Zealand seemed likely to reject a 10-year deal, however, with the final agreement likely to be for a shorter period.
    

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/new-super-deal-on-brink-after-secret-adelaide-meeting-20220831-p5be61.html

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    @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

    I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

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      @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

      Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

      I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

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      @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

      Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

      I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

      Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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      • pukunuiP pukunui

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

        @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

        Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

        I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

        Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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        @pukunui thats what i had always believed, and that that was why the SA teams got afternoon kick offs etc but i think someone corrected me on here, if it was ever the case it changed a long time ago

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        • pukunuiP pukunui

          @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

          Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

          I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

          Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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          @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

          @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

          Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

          I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

          Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

          Isn't it also a bit like what we want when we play say England at Twickenham. .

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          • pukunuiP pukunui

            @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

            Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

            I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

            Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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            @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

            Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

            I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

            Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

            I believe that they agreed SANZAR sold the rights and hence benefited as a whole. In the current iteration, RA and NZR are individually selling their rights.

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              If RA want revenue sharing that works both ways.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

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                @ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

                Ah yes, that great reading app, Instagram 😁

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                    @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

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                      The full draw will be released soon.

                      Super Round Match Schedule: (Australian times)

                      Friday 3 March

                      Crusaders v Highlanders, 6.00pm

                      Melbourne Rebels v Hurricanes, 8.10pm


                      Saturday 4 March

                      Moana Pasifika v Chiefs, 5.05pm

                      Fijian Drua v Waratahs, 7.45pm


                      Sunday 5 March

                      Blues v Brumbies, 2.00pm

                      Force v Reds, 4.30pm

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                        @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        OH! thats what they were advertising at the game last night, we keep seeing this ad roll around the advertising hoarding "returning to melbourne"....but no one could make out the actual logo when i came up...too small and unfamiliar, became a bit of a joke amoungst those around us trying to work out what it was when it came up

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

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                          @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                          @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

                          especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                            @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

                            especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

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                            @Kiwiwomble Yep, and NZ fans missing out on at least one (home) game they can go to. (I assume there's revenue sharing for the franchises themselves?)

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Kiwiwomble Yep, and NZ fans missing out on at least one (home) game they can go to. (I assume there's revenue sharing for the franchises themselves?)

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                              @Stargazer what revenue ? :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy: certainly not from ticket sales

                              dont get me wrong, i'll go again...but i wont have to decide until the day

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @Stargazer what revenue ? :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy: certainly not from ticket sales

                                dont get me wrong, i'll go again...but i wont have to decide until the day

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                                @Kiwiwomble Good point. So basically all teams having to sacrifice a home game, also suffer finanical loss because of it!

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                                  @Kiwiwomble Good point. So basically all teams having to sacrifice a home game, also suffer finanical loss because of it!

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                                  @Stargazer i guess we can just hope they learnt from this year and actually market it..great idea on paper

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                                    There will be a guaranteed income for each team from these parties:

                                    “We’re delighted to bring Super Round Melbourne back for the second year with the support of the Victorian Government and Visit Victoria.”

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                                      With more than 30,000 rugby fans attending the first ever Super Round over the ANZAC weekend, SAZAAR CEO Brendan Morris remained confident they can build on it whilst 'building on the lessons of last year.'

                                      “It is fantastic that based on last year’s success we are heading to Melbourne once again for Super Round," Morris believes.

                                      "The concept of having all the matches at one venue, in one city, over a single weekend is a big attraction for the tournament and is appealing to our fans.

                                      30,000 isn't that much for an entire weekend with so many games
                                      Last year? He's already living in 2023?
                                      Was it really a success?

                                      https://www.rugby.com.au/news/super-round-to-return-to-melbourne-in-2023-2022915

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                                        it's a good idea, stop whinging you fuckers

                                        it was hugely affected this year by borders and border wariness. People were really gun shy about booking flights and events even as late as April. ANd fucking forget about Trans- Ta$man

                                        Will it ever be NRL Magic Round? No, of course not. Less games. Less fans. But rugby festivals should be supported at every opportunity.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          it's a good idea, stop whinging you fuckers

                                          it was hugely affected this year by borders and border wariness. People were really gun shy about booking flights and events even as late as April. ANd fucking forget about Trans- Ta$man

                                          Will it ever be NRL Magic Round? No, of course not. Less games. Less fans. But rugby festivals should be supported at every opportunity.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          whinging

                                          Questioning decisions isn't whinging. 🙂

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