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The Current State of Rugby

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    reprobate
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    It's just bizarre. Every decision ever made puts all of the onus on the defender to get it right. This impact caused a severe injury, but they are mitigating it because the defender didn't supply enough of the momentum? That's effectively saying it is Retallicks fault for running hard.
    Despite the defender having plenty of time to go low, and deciding to go high on a 6'8" lock.
    I give up.

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      WR pandering to the ABs again.

      Back door deals to have the whole Irish team red carded at the RWC if we face them.

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      • BonesB Bones

        WR pandering to the ABs again.

        Back door deals to have the whole Irish team red carded at the RWC if we face them.

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        League allows a red carded player to be instantly subbed… apparently….makes sense. Also it would also be a good thing if each side had three requests to have an incident reviewed like tennis.

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          League allows a red carded player to be instantly subbed… apparently….makes sense. Also it would also be a good thing if each side had three requests to have an incident reviewed like tennis.

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          @POV said in The Current State of Rugby:

          Also it would also be a good thing if each side had three requests to have an incident reviewed like tennis.

          Cards only occur after an incident has been reviewed anyway though, why would the ref change his mind on a rereview?

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          • M mooshld

            So Porter has been cleared.

            I don't understand this game any more.

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            @mooshld said in The Current State of Rugby:

            So Porter has been cleared.

            I don't understand this game any more.

            Absolutely mind boggling.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @mariner4life

              professional coaches are above all else risk averse
              
              they also absolutely hate chaos.
              

              alt text

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              @nostrildamus said in The Current State of Rugby:

              @mariner4life

              professional coaches are above all else risk averse
              
              they also absolutely hate chaos.
              

              alt text

              I see your PDivvy and raise you a coach who took a punt on rugby chaos: RobHowleylookingshifty.jpeg

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              • M mooshld

                So Porter has been cleared.

                I don't understand this game any more.

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                @mooshld said in The Current State of Rugby:

                So Porter has been cleared.

                I don't understand this game any more.

                What a joke.

                Watching it is a waste of your time.

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                • M mooshld

                  So Porter has been cleared.

                  I don't understand this game any more.

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                  @mooshld said in The Current State of Rugby:

                  So Porter has been cleared.

                  I don't understand this game any more.

                  lol what?

                  yep, the game has no issues at all....

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                    #337

                    Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                    Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                    I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                      Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                      I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

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                      @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                      I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                      It would depend on who is affected in the final, negatively and positively, before it would be an issue worth addressing.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                        It would depend on who is affected in the final, negatively and positively, before it would be an issue worth addressing.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                        I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                        It would depend on who is affected in the final, negatively and positively, before it would be an issue worth addressing.

                        Naturally, that we win because Farrell is red carded in the 1st minute. That should do it.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                          Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                          I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

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                          @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                          Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                          NZR is still waiting for a "please explain" and an apology from the 3rd BIL test aren't they? WR never admit their mistakes.

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                            League allows a red carded player to be instantly subbed… apparently….makes sense. Also it would also be a good thing if each side had three requests to have an incident reviewed like tennis.

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                            @POV said in The Current State of Rugby:

                            League allows a red carded player to be instantly subbed… apparently….makes sense. Also it would also be a good thing if each side had three requests to have an incident reviewed like tennis.

                            Why three?

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                              Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                              I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

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                              @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                              Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                              Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                              I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                              The argument, not that I agree with it, is the difference between Ta'avao running and Porter basically standing still. WR clearly don't care about head contact because Porter's tackle obviously caused damage. It's a farce.

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                                @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                                NZR is still waiting for a "please explain" and an apology from the 3rd BIL test aren't they? WR never admit their mistakes.

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                                @Bovidae said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                                NZR is still waiting for a "please explain" and an apology from the 3rd BIL test aren't they? WR never admit their mistakes.

                                In any decently run sporting organisation, Poite would've been sacked and investigated for corruption.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                                  Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                                  I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                                  The argument, not that I agree with it, is the difference between Ta'avao running and Porter basically standing still. WR clearly don't care about head contact because Porter's tackle obviously caused damage. It's a farce.

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                                  @antipodean said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                  Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                                  Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                                  I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                                  The argument, not that I agree with it, is the difference between Ta'avao running and Porter basically standing still. WR clearly don't care about head contact because Porter's tackle obviously caused damage. It's a farce.

                                  and he basically took one step

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                                    @gt12 said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                    Did the NZRU appeal the decision? If we had any balls, we’d be screaming blue murder.

                                    Btw, for those who are trolling and wish to point out our ‘inconsistency’, I don’t have an actual problem with that being a YC, I have a problem with the fact that Ta’avao got a RC and three weeks for something more akin to a rugby collision !

                                    I genuinely hope that the World Cup final changes because of a call like this, so that World a rugby can be shown up as the bunch of useless fluffybunnies they clearly are.

                                    The argument, not that I agree with it, is the difference between Ta'avao running and Porter basically standing still. WR clearly don't care about head contact because Porter's tackle obviously caused damage. It's a farce.

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                                    @antipodean Porter straightened (natural instinct to protect oneself, I expect this probably is stronger than ones ninja reflexes) to brace for the impact, which was probably the worst part as it raised his head into Brodies.

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                                      @antipodean Porter straightened (natural instinct to protect oneself, I expect this probably is stronger than ones ninja reflexes) to brace for the impact, which was probably the worst part as it raised his head into Brodies.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                      @antipodean Porter straightened (natural instinct to protect oneself, I expect this probably is stronger than ones ninja reflexes) to brace for the impact, which was probably the worst part as it raised his head into Brodies.

                                      Porter: 183cm
                                      Brodie: 204cm
                                      Impact: just below his right eye I believe (saw it on tv/video now can't find a photo).
                                      https://www.the42.ie/andrew-porter-brodie-retallick-citing-dismissed-5821030-Jul2022/
                                      Sure Brodie wasn't full height but neither were and that's a 21cm height difference.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @taniwharugby said in The Current State of Rugby:

                                        @antipodean Porter straightened (natural instinct to protect oneself, I expect this probably is stronger than ones ninja reflexes) to brace for the impact, which was probably the worst part as it raised his head into Brodies.

                                        Porter: 183cm
                                        Brodie: 204cm
                                        Impact: just below his right eye I believe (saw it on tv/video now can't find a photo).
                                        https://www.the42.ie/andrew-porter-brodie-retallick-citing-dismissed-5821030-Jul2022/
                                        Sure Brodie wasn't full height but neither were and that's a 21cm height difference.

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                                        reprobate
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                                        @nostrildamus It's a fucking joke. He had 5m of clear visibility to line him up and tackle him low. He decided to go high. Ta'avao didn't have time to make a decision, didn't have time to drop.
                                        What's the precedent? As long as you're not moving forward you can line up an attackers head with your own?

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                                          Maybe WR contracted refs for internationals. What they also need is a citing panel for the entire world, say 7 people who do it all, as a full time or retirement job. Cos that's even more inconsistant without the excuse of time pressure. Every citing is online to make it equal for all, with the same core people

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-world-rugby-seriously-considering-central-contracts-for-referees-to-combat-consistency-issues/DVMZ64ZEDSAUFWYI5INBROXRTA/?c_id=80&objectid=12539436&ref=rss

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