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  • M Machpants

    @Crucial said in Foster:

    Some reading from the soothsayers of the Fern

    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3608/poll-the-final-choice-ab-coach?page=1

    [Poll] The final choice (AB Coach)  The Silver Fern.png

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    @Machpants

    I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

    At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

    Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

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      @Machpants

      I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

      At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

      Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

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      @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

      @Machpants

      I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

      At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

      Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

      I'm surprised, everyone I've talked to around the time had realised Hansen had lost his edge, and obviously should have gone as originally planned after the lions series. His judgement was suspect by then, the 'after more than 7 years in the job you're past your peak and is time to move on' effect was very obvious

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      • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

        @Dan54 said in Foster:

        I think with the backing Foster has got from the players publicly over the last few weeks (I know what do they know, they not posting in here lol), even if there is genuine thoughts of replacing him isn't there a chance of alienating the players?

        this is the issue - fozzie seems immensely popular with the players and it's a big part of why he got picked and why he's still around.
        They need to scrap that thinking and take a ruthless results focused approach.
        I'm hoping all that result did was allow fozzie back into the country without a lynch mob being there waiting for him at the airport.

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        @WillieTheWaiter

        Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

        Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

        The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

        As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

        Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

        One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
        Lots at stake this week it seems

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          @WillieTheWaiter

          Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

          Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

          The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

          As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

          Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

          One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
          Lots at stake this week it seems

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          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

          @WillieTheWaiter

          Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

          Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

          The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

          As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

          Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

          One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
          Lots at stake this week it seems

          been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

            @WillieTheWaiter

            Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

            Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

            The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

            As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

            Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

            One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
            Lots at stake this week it seems

            been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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            #2599

            @ploughboy said in Foster:

            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

            @WillieTheWaiter

            Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

            Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

            The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

            As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

            Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

            One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
            Lots at stake this week it seems

            been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

            More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @ploughboy said in Foster:

              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

              @WillieTheWaiter

              Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

              Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

              The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

              As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

              Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

              One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
              Lots at stake this week it seems

              been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

              More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

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              @Chris said in Foster:

              @ploughboy said in Foster:

              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

              @WillieTheWaiter

              Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

              Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

              The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

              As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

              Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

              One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
              Lots at stake this week it seems

              been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

              More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

              we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

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              • P ploughboy

                @Chris said in Foster:

                @ploughboy said in Foster:

                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                @WillieTheWaiter

                Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                Lots at stake this week it seems

                been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

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                #2601

                @ploughboy said in Foster:

                @Chris said in Foster:

                @ploughboy said in Foster:

                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                @WillieTheWaiter

                Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                Lots at stake this week it seems

                been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                We have already found out some of it.

                Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @WillieTheWaiter

                  Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                  Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                  The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                  As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                  Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                  One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                  Lots at stake this week it seems

                  been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                  More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                  we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                  We have already found out some of it.

                  Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

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                  #2602

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @WillieTheWaiter

                  Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                  Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                  The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                  As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                  Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                  One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                  Lots at stake this week it seems

                  been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                  More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                  we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                  We have already found out some of it.

                  Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

                  then again that might be found out next week to

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                  • P ploughboy

                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                    @WillieTheWaiter

                    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                    Lots at stake this week it seems

                    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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                    #2603

                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                    @WillieTheWaiter

                    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                    Lots at stake this week it seems

                    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                    Sauce??

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                    • broughieB broughie

                      But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                      Just rip that plaster off.

                      Excellent word choices in bold.

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                      @broughie said in Foster:

                      But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                      Just rip that plaster off.

                      Excellent word choices in bold.

                      This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

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                        @ploughboy said in Foster:

                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                        @WillieTheWaiter

                        Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                        Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                        The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                        As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                        Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                        One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                        Lots at stake this week it seems

                        been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                        Sauce??

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                        #2605

                        @Frank said in Foster:

                        @ploughboy said in Foster:

                        @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                        @WillieTheWaiter

                        Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                        Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                        The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                        As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                        Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                        One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                        Lots at stake this week it seems

                        been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                        Sauce??

                        robert van royen article on some rugby site

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @broughie said in Foster:

                          But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                          Just rip that plaster off.

                          Excellent word choices in bold.

                          This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

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                          @Bones said in Foster:

                          @broughie said in Foster:

                          But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                          Just rip that plaster off.

                          Excellent word choices in bold.

                          This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

                          We’ve all fallen for that one

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                            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                            @WillieTheWaiter

                            Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                            Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                            The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                            As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                            Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                            One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                            Lots at stake this week it seems

                            been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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                            @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

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                              @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                              @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

                              i think that is chris and mines points lots of click bait out there some of it will be right some will be fools gold

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                                @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

                                i think that is chris and mines points lots of click bait out there some of it will be right some will be fools gold

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                                @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                  @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                  I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                  @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                  I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                  Wouldn't that be ironic.

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                                    @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                    I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                    @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                    I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                    It's lining up nicely for TSF Coaching Inc to take over.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                      @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                      I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                      Wouldn't that be ironic.

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                                      @Chris said in Foster:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                      @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                      I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                      Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                      Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

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                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                        @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                        I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                        Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                        Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

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                                        @Machpants said in Foster:

                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                        @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                        I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                        Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                        Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

                                        It would be

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          @Frank said in Foster:

                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          @Frank said in Foster:

                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

                                          @antipodean said in Foster:

                                          Why would you remove a coach that won against the current World Champions at Ellis Park?

                                          Because he just lost a home series to Ireland.

                                          Why does two good results trump three poor ones?

                                          Progress. There's now a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board apparently. Hopefully they help drive Foster to be slightly less risk averse in selections, as we've seen young props step up to the plate.

                                          The progress has largely happened because of "a very competent forwards coach and analyst on board" now we need a very competent head coach with a far superior record to Foster to top it all off.

                                          We aren't playing Super Rugby, we want a head coach with experience at Test level and a demonstrated record of success at RWCs. Like a winner's medal in some capacity.

                                          Who do you suggest?

                                          The bloke that won on the weekend against the World Champions at their version of Eden Park must be alright.

                                          The same bloke who was part of the 2019 WC SF loss and has created all sorts of losing stats over the last 3 years Perfect lol.

                                          Sir Ted became the first All Black coach to get bundled out at the quarter final stage.

                                          I'm guessing my point is a little too subtle for you and @Frank

                                          My point is the bloke has been in the environment for 2 Wc's has lost the last 5 out of 7 tests.You think he would be getting better One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                                          Has selected the wrong players,We bring in the Crusaders forward coach and we win because of the great platform set by the forwards.
                                          Nothing to do with the HC.

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                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          One test win doesn't disprove all the shit that has happened before Saturday.

                                          Exactly this.

                                          And similarly, one Test win doesn't prove the improvement in the forwards engineered by the new coach isn't a one-off either. We've seen improvements in the whole team but we want see it sustained.

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