Foster, Robertson etc
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby. -
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.Would you like to name the board with their rugby nous next to their names
Sorry I should have added High Performance experience. -
So Chirs name your board that would be the answer. The easiest thing to do is tell everyone how useless a board is that is appointed by all the provinces etc that run ruby in the country, without telling us who all the good people are who are missing out on job. The thing is mate, I don't know any sport that the public who sit in background thingk is really well run.
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@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Made sense to me to say what he did, not give hints or anything. Just something I believe, if there no news , don't make it up etc. He was asked a question, and answered that they are talking to people that are relevant.
Not sure what that means is it doesn't mean they started. I always thought that when they signed Razor until 2024. If they had no interest they wouldn't of done that surely. They probably also need to see where people like Jamie Joseph etc stand . I don't need anymore info than that myself. -
So Chirs name your board that would be the answer. The easiest thing to do is tell everyone how useless a board is that is appointed by all the provinces etc that run ruby in the country, without telling us who all the good people are who are missing out on job. The thing is mate, I don't know any sport that the public who sit in background thingk is really well run.
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
So Chirs name your board that would be the answer. The easiest thing to do is tell everyone how useless a board is that is appointed by all the provinces etc that run ruby in the country, without telling us who all the good people are who are missing out on job. The thing is mate, I don't know any sport that the public who sit in background thingk is really well run.
Anyone who doesn't tell Australia Rugby they can only have 3 teams in the SR comp and almost kill it all together,After throwing out Argentina and South Africa to weaken the product.
Wait until all the coaches bar 2 are signed up to appoint the coach through to WC 2023 and appoint the wrong one.
and look like repeating the same mistake.
After the AB's lost the First test in SA pull Razor aside tell him to select his coaching team as he is going to take over when they get back from SA throwing 3 SR franchises into panic as they were losing their coaches,They were sounding out replacements.
Then get back from SA to tell everyone involved we were only kidding.If that is not incompetence WTF is.
You want other names sure
Crunchy the Clown.Ronald MCDonald,Mickey Mouse all could do a better job.How about sounding out some true High performance people who can understand how structures work. There are plenty in NZ and overseas if you are up with the state of Play with Rugby in NZ.
I am not going to throw their names out on a forum but you just have a wee think if you know about Rugby in NZ and they might jump out at you.Your head in the Sand attitude to the way the game is being Run in NZ is why it is in the fucking state its in
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@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Made sense to me to say what he did, not give hints or anything. Just something I believe, if there no news , don't make it up etc. He was asked a question, and answered that they are talking to people that are relevant.
Not sure what that means is it doesn't mean they started. I always thought that when they signed Razor until 2024. If they had no interest they wouldn't of done that surely. They probably also need to see where people like Jamie Joseph etc stand . I don't need anymore info than that myself.@Dan54 not saying something didnt make sense, just all the incompetence in the past 18 months or so from Robinson, he now has the chance to stand up and show some leadership as the CEO of NZR, rather than acting like a politician.
Dont expect him to show all his cards, but at least be straight about it, instead of the vague politician answers, people dont trust our politicians, yet we have the CEO of NZR behaving like one
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@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/ -
@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/I don't think the money is primarily important for Razor. Give him the job and he will gladly accept, for the honour and glory of coaching the ABs
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/I don't think the money is primarily important for Razor. Give him the job and he will gladly accept, for the honour and glory of coaching the ABs
@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/I don't think the money is primarily important for Razor. Give him the job and he will gladly accept, for the honour and glory of coaching the ABs
Yep Totally agree Its a job if the NZR don't want him.
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@voodoo said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Anyone have a sense of what these guys get paid for Crusaders HC, AB HC, and England HC?
This for England coach
https://www.totalsportal.com/rugby/six-nations-championship-head-coaches-salaries/ -
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.Would you like to name the board with their rugby nous next to their names
Sorry I should have added High Performance experience.@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.Would you like to name the board with their rugby nous next to their names
Sorry I should have added High Performance experience.Would you like to name them and tell me why you don't think have rugby nous?
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@Chris wow, Townsend and Pivac get £300,000 and £500,000 respectively for World Cup Qualification?
Surely thats more than just qualifying for the RWC, more likely quarter finals?
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris wow, Townsend and Pivac get £300,000 and £500,000 respectively for World Cup Qualification?
Surely thats more than just qualifying for the RWC, more likely quarter finals?
You would think so it’s a big business in Europe now.
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.Would you like to name the board with their rugby nous next to their names
Sorry I should have added High Performance experience.Would you like to name them and tell me why you don't think have rugby nous?
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 I think if he said we have started the process, would be more than sufficient, instead, he danced around like a politician.
It aint like Fozzie doesnt know he has to reapply, win or not, so putting the feelers out signalling those who think they are a shot, thier time is coming, it certainly aint gonna hurt anyones feelings...who knows, Fozzie may have already indicated he wont even reapply...
Instead, like last time, most of the applicants felt it was a closed shop and done deal (whether it was or not is irrelevant if several potential candidates think it is)
Like he said himself, other unions are already making moves, instead he's focussed on other stuff, when in reality, this next 12 months is quite important for NZR given the relative cluster fuck the last 18 months has been on the coaching front, he needs to get this right.
Yep totally agree just more incompetence,Puss footing around and backing themselves into another corner post WC.
They are one very incompetent board that lot.The majority of the board have no rugby nous or background.This post prompted me to look at the Board makeup and I don't think this is true at all. There's three former province Chairs including from the two most recently successful provinces (hmmm, I see the problem, too many Crusaders region reps
) and the others all have decent CVs with pretty long term involvement in rugby.Would you like to name the board with their rugby nous next to their names
Sorry I should have added High Performance experience.Would you like to name them and tell me why you don't think have rugby nous?
Most of them because they have proved it.
One I have had many a dealings with at lower levels and he has no idea. -
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
So Chirs name your board that would be the answer. The easiest thing to do is tell everyone how useless a board is that is appointed by all the provinces etc that run ruby in the country, without telling us who all the good people are who are missing out on job. The thing is mate, I don't know any sport that the public who sit in background thingk is really well run.
Anyone who doesn't tell Australia Rugby they can only have 3 teams in the SR comp and almost kill it all together,After throwing out Argentina and South Africa to weaken the product.
Wait until all the coaches bar 2 are signed up to appoint the coach through to WC 2023 and appoint the wrong one.
and look like repeating the same mistake.
After the AB's lost the First test in SA pull Razor aside tell him to select his coaching team as he is going to take over when they get back from SA throwing 3 SR franchises into panic as they were losing their coaches,They were sounding out replacements.
Then get back from SA to tell everyone involved we were only kidding.If that is not incompetence WTF is.
You want other names sure
Crunchy the Clown.Ronald MCDonald,Mickey Mouse all could do a better job.How about sounding out some true High performance people who can understand how structures work. There are plenty in NZ and overseas if you are up with the state of Play with Rugby in NZ.
I am not going to throw their names out on a forum but you just have a wee think if you know about Rugby in NZ and they might jump out at you.Your head in the Sand attitude to the way the game is being Run in NZ is why it is in the fucking state its in
@Chris So basically you don't have answer, just having a moan. And not even getting things quite right. When were Aussie told they could only have 3 teams by NZR? Thay let actually asked all coaches who wanted to apply a few months before, I think they one they wanted Schmidt needed a break, only really Jamie Joseph was tied up to a test team (and he's who I wanted). You are guessing the stuff about Razor etc is true, and have seen where it was fairly catergorically wrong, and was mainly rumours .I personally don't know of anyone who is better to run NZR, if I had suggestions I would make them.
